NP - It's not the video games

Prashant Kumar siva.prashant.kumar at gmail.com
Fri Dec 21 11:09:56 CST 2012


The NRA press conference is, I think, the worst thing I've ever heard this
year....I feel sick, I just...am I alone, Americans? How did an association
of hunting enthusiasts who turned into a lobby group who capitalised on a
wedge issue - to such an extent that they changed the interpretation of an
Amendment -- gain so much political capital that they can insist on what
amounts to siege logic, under the guise of rightthinking action? What
happens when the cop with an itch meets the kid with a bulge in his jacket
acting out? Why do people who groan when they get out of chairs think they
have the requisite nerve and alacrity to reach the gun, much less to kill a
gunman?

Where does your society go from here? Surely there are only so many sharks
to jump?

P.

On Friday, 21 December 2012, Charles Albert wrote:

> Yes and no...The share prices are probably just a function of a temporary
> demand supply imbalance......firearms sales are very strong. A friend who
> works for a specialty shop which supplies barrels to manufacturers like
> SIG/SAUER reports that business is booming. Their clients are the Imelda
> Marcoses of Metal.
>
>
> love,
> cfa
>
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:40 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/more-companies-pull-out-of-gun-investments-121912
>
> *Following the announcement* by Cerberus<http://news.yahoo.com/newtown-backlash-prompts-gun-investment-overhaul-032547862--sector.html>,
> the capital management firm that said yesterday that it was getting out of
> the firearms business, it appears that the notion of divestment is starting
> to catch on around the country.
>
> The $150.1 billion New York State Common Retirement Fund is reviewing its
> investments in firearm manufacturers, a spokesman for New York State
> Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli said on Tuesday. New York City's pension funds
> are also reviewing investments and may sell nearly $18 million worth of
> stock in four companies that manufacture guns and ammunition, a spokesman
> said on Tuesday.
>
> The city's $128 billion pension funds hold nearly $14 million worth of
> shares in ammunition maker Olin Corp, $1.7 million in gun maker Smith &
> Wesson Holding Corp, $2.4 million in gun maker Sturm Ruger & Co Inc and
> $17,866 worth of stock in Brazilian gun maker Forjas Taurus SA. Shares of
> Smith & Wesson fell nearly 10 percent, shares of Sturm Roger fell 7.7
> percent, shares of Forjas Taurus fell 3.8 percent and shares of Olin fell
> 2.1 percent on Tuesday.
>
> If you're wondering why the NRA is extending what Joe Scarborough called
> "the olive branch" this time, there's your reason. That's the real thing
> that's changed since the massacre in Connecticut. There is a fundamental
> reaction against the people who profit from mass slaughter, and the dots
> are being connected in ways they haven't been previously. The NRA is the
> lobbying arm of the armaments industry, and those guys are starting to lose
> money by the fistful, and they can see more of this happening, so, I
> guarantee you, we're going to be hearing about the "many causes" of gun
> violence on Friday. The NRA will suddenly become an advocate for lavish
> funding of the nation's mental-health system. These clowns didn't grow a
> conscience over the weekend. Their sugar daddies are losing money, and
> that's all that ever has mattered.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:19 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> More to this specific point, she's using the unavoidable "nothing you can
> do about it" presence of evil as an excuse for inaction on gun control.
>   There's no reason to consider why they kill so many more people in the
> United States than in other wealthy industrialized nations. Not a question
> worth asking! Maybe we're just that much more evil as a nation!
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> This, of course, presumes the basic dichotomy of good and evil. I, along
> with a number of other folks, consider that a false dichotomy and assume,
> rather, a multi-valent, many-leveled description involving stages of
> development in an array of psychological lines. What we call evil can be
> pathological development in the moral line, or some other crippling
> pathology. That said, "evil" provides a quick shorthand for individuals
> incapable of certain developmental requisites to socialization.
>
> That sounds kind of egg-headed, but I can't think of a better way to
> phrase it off the cuff.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:55 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> North Carolina Rep. Virginia Foxx:
>
> “There are just evil people in the world and nothing you are going to do
> is going to prevent evil sometimes from occur
>
>
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