Back to AtD. which contains everything, pp 965-969)

[alice wellintown]

Wow! So that Pynchon he sure is sharp; males are more violent than females,
females who use violence are often victims of violence, by their old men,
brothers, lovers....and, the more liberty women have and can exercise, the
less they resort to violence even when they live in poverty and are victims
of male violence, and, economic independence reduces both the abuse by men
of females and violence by females. Females should never be denied the
right to express anger, though males are often shocked when females express
anger, this surprise is, of course, a mild abuse by males, a method to keep
females from demonstrating their equality, their humanity, and thus proving
that while anger is a human emotion, violence need not follow.

Of course, all this is obvious enough, so maybe P isn't all that smart. Or
something ....

On Thursday, December 27, 2012, Mark Kohut wrote:

>  That male disease, as bandwraith reminds: Pynchon knows that too(?) as
> he has violence play out
> in the Traverse boys but nothing quite like that w/ the girls....
>
> and overtly, p. 964 Reef's daughter, Ljubica laughs *uproariously *when
> she hears her first explosions
> up in the mountains....Reef calls her "a dynamite baby" says she gets it
> from her grandpa,
> "In the blood"...but within a few pages, and more real time in the
> fighting, the war, after we learn Ljubica can
> talk to dogs--the dog of the Chums' Girls---that has disappeared. She gets
> angry when a bomb goes off near her
> "sure surprised us".......
>
> Yashmeen's nurture overcame her 'nature"?
>
>   *From:* "bandwraith at aol.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'bandwraith at aol.com');>" <bandwraith at aol.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'bandwraith at aol.com');>>
> *To:* pynchon-l at waste.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'pynchon-l at waste.org');>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 25, 2012 7:08 PM
> *Subject:* Alice's Restaurant (WAS Re: Back to AtD. which contains
> everything, pp 965-969)
>
>
> "And I went up there, I said, "Shrink, I want to kill.  I mean, I wanna, I
> wanna kill.  Kill.  I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and
> guts and veins in my teeth.  Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill,
> KILL, KILL."  And I started jumpin up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL," and
> he started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down
> yelling, "KILL, KILL."  And the sargent came over, pinned a medal on me,
> sent me down the hall, said, "You're our boy." "
>
> It's a male disease...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'markekohut at yahoo.com');>>
> To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'pynchon-l at waste.org');>>
> Sent: Tue, Dec 25, 2012 6:29 pm
> Subject: Back to AtD. which contains everything, pp 965-969
>
>
>
> News you may know:
> A gunman set his house on fire near Webster, NY, and shot the firefighters
> who responded with his
> automatic,semi-automatic?,- the notorious Bushmaster AK--15. You may have
> read he left a note which said
> he was getting ready to do "what I do best, kill people."
>
> In this section of AtD, when the war is building, is in the air,
> ground and music, on p.965 we read:
> "Among the Mauser on Mauser, something new on earth. Machine guns, the
> future of warfare."
>
> Then we read shortly later, p.969, They had entered "a theatre of war" and
> "Reef entered the domain of five hundred rounds per minute"...."and whoever
> they'd been, they didn't seem to be there anymore".
>
> Yashmeen murmured as if to Ljubica:
> "What he does best, of course."
>
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