socialism vs capitalism

[Keith Davis]

WWGD? That's a campaign slogan whose time has come.
On Jan 2, 2012 4:48 PM, "Ian Livingston" <igrlivingston at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hmm. What Would Groucho Do?
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> > On 1/2/2012 2:25 PM, Ian Livingston wrote:
> >>
> >> There is a link to the questionnaire used at the top of the column on
> >> the right side of the page. Given the format, it seems the questions
> >> were geared to get responses to the words, not to the ideas.
> >
> > That is my understanding.
> >
> > The results are useful to politicians campaigning for office. For
> example,
> > Newt running against Obama might score points in calling the latter a
> > socialist but it would be pointless, counterproductive even, to call him
> a
> > capitalist.
> >
> > I imagine Karl Marx if asked would have answered positively to both
> > "socialist" and "capitalist."
> >
> >  He believed capitalism was a hell of a success. (but it would someday be
> > time to move along)
> >
> > I don't know about Groucho.
> >
> > P
> >
> >
> >
> >>  It's a
> >> relatively small fraction of Americans who actually understand the
> >> ideas in the first place, anyway, so, in order to get responses to the
> >> actual ideas involved in capitalism and socialism, etc., an accurate
> >> survey would have to break the ideas into simple terms. Re-posting
> >> Paul's original link:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.people-press.org/2011/12/28/little-change-in-publics-response-to-capitalism-socialism/?src=prc-headline
> >>  Look at the pdfs in the "Report Materials" section on the right.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Paul Mackin<mackin.paul at verizon.net>
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 1/2/2012 12:45 PM, Bekah wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> If asked if I had a favorable or unfavorable reaction to socialism,
> >>>>  could
> >>>> I say no?   (or does it have to be one or the other?)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The positives and negatives don't add to 100 percent so I guess you
> could
> >>> answer no opinion.
> >>>
> >>> This latter category accounted for 20 percent with respect to
> >>> "capitalism"
> >>> and 19 percent with respect to "socialism."
> >>>
> >>> P
> >>>
> >>>> Bekah
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Paul Mackin wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 1/1/2012 10:04 PM, David Morris wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> P-listers should know that the Capitalism/Socialism polarity is
> false
> >>>>>
> >>>>> True, and I did slightly misstate the survey's question in my own
> >>>>> introductory question.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The question asked was, do you have a favorable or unfavorable
> reaction
> >>>>> to "socialism?" (and same for "capitalism")
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No definitions were given, and it would certainly have been possible
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> a respondent to have a negative reaction to both of them, or to
> >>>>> neither.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  In other words. it wasn't a choice between the two isms.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> P
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sunday, January 1, 2012, Paul Mackin<mackin.paul at verizon.net>
> >>>>>>  wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> can you find the three groups that have a more favorable view
> toward
> >>>>>>> socialism than capitalism?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> http://www.people-press.org/2011/12/28/little-change-in-publics-response-to-capitalism-socialism/?src=prc-headline
> >>>>>>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> "Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all
> creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the
> trust in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments
> of darkness groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates
> than the simplest urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant
>
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