Carbon Democracy: Political Power in the Age of Oil

[Kai Frederik Lorentzen]

Yes.

Since we're talking on P-list: Didn't Pynchon - by putting the 
real-world-events of Operation Paperclip and MK Ultra into his novels - 
himself make a certain connection between Nazi Germany and the US?

Isn't GR's Weissmann/Blicero in fact designed to represent the real 
Wernher von Braun?

Of course it is "absurd" to /equate/ the US and Nazi Germany; nobody did.

According to my impression, however, it was Pynchon's intention to 
criticize his very own US society of the 1960s and early 1970s by 
intermingling patterns of domination common to both systems.

Not that he's a Germany lover or something ...


On 08.01.2012 02:25, Michael Bailey wrote:

> said alice -
>> Well, it is absurd to equate Nazi Germany and the US.
> JT brought up some points of comparison.
>
> to which one might add, the proportion of the national enterprise
> dedicated to murderous endeavor was -- I'm pretty sure -- much higher
> in the 3rd Reich
>
> but US adventures in the old ultra-violence have been taking place
> over a much longer time so that cumulatively...
>
> Even so, there are important philosophical and procedural differences
> that I, for one, cherish.
>
>

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