List of agnostics

[David Morris]

Someone just posted an "Athiest's Meditation" on FaceBook:

"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion
of knowledge."
Stephen Hawking

On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> He goes to great, even exhaustive lengths to show us that no one has any
> ultimate answers. I think this is what Slothrop comes to at the end of GR,
> and is the reason it had such a huge impact on me. No one has any answers,
> and that is the "Great Liberation".
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> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> As a "recovering Southern Baptist", I can "testify" to the difficulty
>> involved in turning loose of this addiction. I've taken some of those
>> alternative paths, and finally arrived at something that works for me. It
>> has taken a long time. Even though one may realize rationally that the
>> fictions or myths are just that, the emotional effects are so deep that I'm
>> not sure that can ever be totally changed or removed. Looking back and
>> forward, it has been a fun and interesting ride.
>>
>> In regards to this, I think that TRP's approach to religion/spirituality
>> does nothing to indicate any kind of belief system of his own, but rather
>> exposes our weaknesses and gullibility. He handles it with humor and
>> sensitivity at the same time.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> Religion will persist because of human psychology. We all go through the
>>> phase of believing, in some degree, that if we say our magic formulae just
>>> right we will get what we ask for. Some people stay with that, many more
>>> move along to finding solace in a group that reinforces magic thinking and
>>> belief in myth as truth. Others continue along to faith in reason, science,
>>> whatever. The move beyond god and devil is often terribly traumatic. "Let me
>>> tell you about heartache and the loss of God. Wandering, wandering in
>>> endless night," says Mr. Morrison. Of course, he was stoned, immaculate.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 8:15 AM, <bandwraith at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> But if they knew they were immortal, they wouldn't work to preserve the
>>>> past. Unless, they were convinced that their immortality was the result
>>>> of a particular past, or pathway. That is, a specific series of choices
>>>> made, or, in the case of "The Elect," predetermined, which will result
>>>> in, or signify, their immortality. Religion is the sanctification of a
>>>> particular history over a field of passed over, or "profane" histories.
>>>> Only the sanctified path leads to immortality. The entrenched, the
>>>> status quo, the crew of The Preserved, all of the social, political and
>>>> economically empowered- soon to become the past with the sweep of each
>>>> new generation- seek to pass along their privilege to those most
>>>> willing to preserve their legacy. Religion persists because it
>>>> persists. What better evidence of its truth?
>>>>
>>>> Of course, it helps to make "acid" and other heresies illegal, else why
>>>> worry about the manicured lawns and the yachts, or the painted
>>>> ceilings? Sorry, Doc, when the fogs burns away, The Angels will still
>>>> be in control.
>>>>
>>>>  ‘See, I am coming soon; my reward is with
>>>> me, to repay according to everyone’s work.
>>>> I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and
>>>> the last, the beginning and the end."
>>>>
>>>> There's a fog upon L.A.
>>>> And my friends have lost their way
>>>> We'll be over soon they said
>>>> Now they've lost themselves instead.
>>>> Please don't be long, please don't you be
>>>> very long. Please don't be long or I may be asleep......
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> --
>>> "Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all
>>> creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the trust in
>>> reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments of darkness
>>> groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates than the simplest
>>> urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant
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