Back to AtD Cyprian again

Paul Mackin mackin.paul at verizon.net
Tue Jul 24 16:05:57 CDT 2012


On 7/23/2012 3:00 AM, Ian Livingston wrote:
> So, are we looking at a moral compass here?

West--France has reputation for being tolerant of ideas--good for 
anarchists.

East--the Ottoman Empire was the "sick man of Europe"--tensions were 
high among the Great Powers.

South--skins were suppose to get darker as you moved south--the Brits 
set the tone with "the  Wogs begin at Calais"--first you travel 
southeast, then south.

North--Brr.

P
>
> On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:markekohut at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>     So, here's a more generalized probably stupid
>     observation/question. East augers bad shit in a number of later
>     Pynchon works, just as North is cold, dead, less fit for
>     humans.....South: tropics, warmth, bananas, beaches
>     is good and in AtD especially and Inherent Vice by setting, West
>     is good, akin to South.
>     Could this be a pattern? Why was the Anarchist Enclave west? We
>     might know why it was 'at the foothills of
>     the Pyrnees as a trope......
>
>     *From:* Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net
>     <mailto:mackin.paul at verizon.net>>
>     *To:* pynchon-l at waste.org <mailto:pynchon-l at waste.org>
>     *Sent:* Sunday, July 22, 2012 11:46 AM
>
>     *Subject:* Re: Back to AtD Cyprian again
>
>     On 7/22/2012 10:31 AM, Ian Livingston wrote:
>>     Eh? Yeah. Makes sense. I was forgetting the setting of the scene.
>>     Having just unpacked my Burke and been drawn into reading a few
>>     paragraphs, I might have thought to apply his careful system
>>     here. Which, I think, would support this reading. Even so, I'd
>>     have to wonder about the larger resonances of the scene as
>>     apostrophe. Just because it's Pynchon and he does that sort of
>>     thing now and then. Well, and because I like to see such.
>
>
>     Yes and east of there is the Balkans, to which Cyprian vowed never
>     to return. I'm assuming this isn't a first reading for anyone, but
>     if is skip down to avoid a possible spoiler
>

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