Can you NOT think of the ending of GR?

[Paul Mackin]

On 7/24/2012 10:17 PM, Ian Livingston wrote:
> After having seen myself and a number of others wounded pretty badly 
> over the course of a few years, I am less queasy about blood and pain 
> than I once was. Movie blood, whether tomato juice or chocolate syrup, 
> never bothered me at all.

During the 8 seasons of "24" I become easily inured to tv torture. The 
first season was a little shocking, and I think only Jack's fists were 
used to get the truth out of them,  but after that, they could bring on 
any  fiendish devise they could think up.

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> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:markekohut at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>     A high school friend has been quoted as saying he, suspect. always
>     identified with the bad guys in superhero movies. Weird, I think
>     the friend said...
>     I am a vile man. I am a spiteful man----Notes from Underground.....
>
>     *From:* Alex Colter <recoignishon at gmail.com
>     <mailto:recoignishon at gmail.com>>
>     *To:* Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net
>     <mailto:bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>>
>     *Cc:* Erik T. Burns <eburns at gmail.com <mailto:eburns at gmail.com>>;
>     "malignd at aol.com <mailto:malignd at aol.com>" <malignd at aol.com
>     <mailto:malignd at aol.com>>; "pynchon-l at waste.org
>     <mailto:pynchon-l at waste.org>" <pynchon-l at waste.org
>     <mailto:pynchon-l at waste.org>>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:56 PM
>
>     *Subject:* Re: Can you NOT think of the ending of GR?
>
>     Apparently Holmes was accepted into the "cream of the crop" summer
>     boot camp run by Miramar college for writing, while still in high
>     school a computer program that illustrates "temporary perceptions
>     of causality and programmed a flicker fusion utility". Flicker
>     fusion being a lively Topic of interest for those Devotees of Xi
>     Nao (brainwashing).
>     It also seems, and this has been a lively topic for the popular
>     Paranoids, that he took part in research programs while at Salk
>     that were directly funded by DARPA...?
>
>     Certainly a few smoking guns here. but one would do well to not
>     trust everything the internet tells us.
>
>     On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net
>     <mailto:bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
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>         I wasn't criticizing parents! I was curious to know if the
>         movie was seriously violent - that's it.  What kind of movie
>         would a very intelligent bizerko pull out the guns for?  I was
>         thinking he was going for audience size, not the violence of
>         the film.
>
>         Bek
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>         On Jul 24, 2012, at 5:45 PM, "Erik T. Burns" <eburns at gmail.com
>         <mailto:eburns at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>         >What sort of parent brings these children to midnight movies
>>         of any sort?
>>
>>         Y'know, under most circumstances I would agree with this
>>         sentiment. But the issue here is not the "bad parenting" of
>>         the audience, it's the fuckwit with the guns. The killer, not
>>         his victims.
>>
>>         On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:23 PM, <malignd at aol.com
>>         <mailto:malignd at aol.com>> wrote:
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>>             I don't think this appalling fact has much to do with the
>>             quality of the movie.  What sort of parent brings these
>>             children to midnight movies of any sort?
>>
>>                 Has anyone here seen the movie? There were 6-year
>>                 olds and younger there and nobody has criticized that
>>                 (to my knowledge).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>             -----Original Message-----
>>             From: Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net
>>             <mailto:bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>>
>>             To: Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net
>>             <mailto:mackin.paul at verizon.net>>
>>             Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org
>>             <mailto:pynchon-l at waste.org>>
>>             Sent: Tue, Jul 24, 2012 6:21 pm
>>             Subject: Re: Can you NOT think of the ending of GR?
>>
>>             Has anyone here seen the movie? There were 6-year olds
>>             and younger there and nobody has criticized that (to my
>>             knowledge).
>>
>>             Bekah
>>
>>             http://beckylindroos.wordpress.com/
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>>             On Jul 24, 2012, at 3:44 PM, Paul Mackin
>>             <mackin.paul at verizon.net
>>             <mailto:mackin.paul at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>
>>>             On 7/24/2012 4:01 PM, Mark Kohut wrote:
>>>>             "This willing dissociation of response from violent
>>>>             spectacle has a
>>>>             downside, as many people have said: we become inured to
>>>>             actual
>>>>             violence when it excites us on; we forget that that
>>>>             there’s pain and
>>>>             death, we become connoisseurs of spectacle
>>>
>>>             Can there be "willing dissociation of response from
>>>             violent spectacle"  if the spectacle isn't seriously
>>>             violent in the first place.  Is Batman movie "violence"
>>>             even violent enough to dissociate from?
>>>
>>>             I'm asking for information. Way too old to judge for myself.
>>>
>>>             P
>>>
>>>
>>>>             . This kind of
>>>>             connoisseurship showed up in the response to 9/11,
>>>>             which many people,
>>>>             with obvious relish as well as awe, said resembled a
>>>>             movie, a remark
>>>>             that left anyone with half a brain feeling queasy, if
>>>>             not furious." —
>>>>             David Denby, The New Yorker
>>>>             Many said it without any relish. & Pynchon has
>>>>             half-a-brain and
>>>>             he was furious (in GR).......
>>>>
>>>>             He (and many others) go there:  "Blame the movie, not
>>>>             the guns/killer."
>>>>
>>>>             David Morris
>>>>
>>>>             On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 12:50 PM, David Morris
>>>>             <fqmorris at gmail.com <mailto:fqmorris at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>             > Ban Batman, not guns!
>>>>
>>>>
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> "Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all 
> creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the 
> trust in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments 
> of darkness groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates 
> than the simplest urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant

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