Can you NOT think of the ending of GR?

[Alex Colter]

As I reckon I am among the younger folks around here I have to admit that
next to nothing shocks me violence-wise in TV or Movies... may be because I
saw Jurassic Park when I was 6, hey it was a  big deal, like Bart sez to
Lisa "Hey sis if you don't watch it you'll never be desensitized.
  then going forward to reading GR for the first time a decade later which
had more of an impact, something clicked, in a good way, began to be
desensitized to the brutality of War, and a whole new sort of Anxiety was
born concerning the Bomb...
violence in books seems to affect me much stronger than in 'visual media',
after reading Blood Meridian twice I can still barely stomach it...

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>wrote:

>  On 7/24/2012 10:17 PM, Ian Livingston wrote:
>
> After having seen myself and a number of others wounded pretty badly over
> the course of a few years, I am less queasy about blood and pain than I
> once was. Movie blood, whether tomato juice or chocolate syrup, never
> bothered me at all.
>
>
> During the 8 seasons of "24" I become easily inured to tv torture.  The
> first season was a little shocking, and I think only Jack's fists were used
> to get the truth out of them,  but after that, they could bring on any
> fiendish devise they could think up.
>
> P
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> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>  A high school friend has been quoted as saying he, suspect. always
>> identified with the bad guys in superhero movies. Weird, I think
>> the friend said...
>>
>> I am a vile man. I am a spiteful man----Notes from Underground.....
>>
>>    *From:* Alex Colter <recoignishon at gmail.com>
>> *To:* Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
>> *Cc:* Erik T. Burns <eburns at gmail.com>; "malignd at aol.com" <
>> malignd at aol.com>; "pynchon-l at waste.org" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:56 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Can you NOT think of the ending of GR?
>>
>> Apparently Holmes was accepted into the "cream of the crop" summer boot
>> camp run by Miramar college for writing, while still in high school a
>> computer program that illustrates "temporary perceptions of causality and
>> programmed a flicker fusion utility". Flicker fusion being a lively Topic
>> of interest for those Devotees of Xi Nao (brainwashing).
>> It also seems, and this has been a lively topic for the popular
>> Paranoids, that he took part in research programs while at Salk that were
>> directly funded by DARPA...?
>>
>> Certainly a few smoking guns here. but one would do well to not trust
>> everything the internet tells us.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>  I wasn't criticizing parents! I was curious to know if the movie was
>> seriously violent - that's it.  What kind of movie would a very intelligent
>> bizerko pull out the guns for?  I was thinking he was going for audience
>> size, not the violence of the film.
>>
>>  Bek
>>
>> On Jul 24, 2012, at 5:45 PM, "Erik T. Burns" <eburns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  >What sort of parent brings these children to midnight movies of any
>> sort?
>>
>> Y'know, under most circumstances I would agree with this sentiment. But
>> the issue here is not the "bad parenting" of the audience, it's the fuckwit
>> with the guns. The killer, not his victims.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:23 PM, <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
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>> I don't think this appalling fact has much to do with the quality of the
>> movie.  What sort of parent brings these children to midnight movies of any
>> sort?
>>
>>  Has anyone here seen the movie? There were 6-year olds and younger
>> there and nobody has criticized that (to my knowledge).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>
>> Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Tue, Jul 24, 2012 6:21 pm
>> Subject: Re: Can you NOT think of the ending of GR?
>>
>>  Has anyone here seen the movie? There were 6-year olds and younger
>> there and nobody has criticized that (to my knowledge).
>>
>>  Bekah
>>
>> http://beckylindroos.wordpress.com/
>>
>> On Jul 24, 2012, at 3:44 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>   On 7/24/2012 4:01 PM, Mark Kohut wrote:
>>
>>  "This willing dissociation of response from violent spectacle has a
>> downside, as many people have said: we become inured to actual
>> violence when it excites us on; we forget that that there’s pain and
>> death, we become connoisseurs of spectacle
>>
>>
>> Can there be "willing dissociation of response from violent spectacle"
>> if the spectacle isn't seriously violent in the first place.  Is Batman
>> movie "violence" even violent enough to dissociate from?
>>
>> I'm asking for information.  Way too old to judge for myself.
>>
>> P
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>>
>>  . This kind of
>> connoisseurship showed up in the response to 9/11, which many people,
>> with obvious relish as well as awe, said resembled a movie, a remark
>> that left anyone with half a brain feeling queasy, if not furious." —
>> David Denby, The New Yorker
>>
>> Many said it without any relish. & Pynchon has half-a-brain and
>> he was furious (in GR).......
>>
>> He (and many others) go there:  "Blame the movie, not the guns/killer."
>>
>> David Morris
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>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 12:50 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Ban Batman, not guns!
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> "Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all creeds
> the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the trust in
> reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments of darkness
> groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates than the simplest
> urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant
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