Can you NOT think of the ending of GR?
malignd at aol.com
malignd at aol.com
Wed Jul 25 16:41:17 CDT 2012
I think this response was directed at me, the issue seemingly something that Erik T. Burns thinks is his to determine.
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From: Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
To: Erik T. Burns <eburns at gmail.com>
Cc: malignd <malignd at aol.com>; pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Tue, Jul 24, 2012 7:15 pm
Subject: Re: Can you NOT think of the ending of GR?
I wasn't criticizing parents! I was curious to know if the movie was seriously violent - that's it. What kind of movie would a very intelligent bizerko pull out the guns for? I was thinking he was going for audience size, not the violence of the film.
Bek
On Jul 24, 2012, at 5:45 PM, "Erik T. Burns" <eburns at gmail.com> wrote:
>What sort of parent brings these children to midnight movies of any sort?
Y'know, under most circumstances I would agree with this sentiment. But the issue here is not the "bad parenting" of the audience, it's the fuckwit with the guns. The killer, not his victims.
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:23 PM, <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
I don't think this appalling fact has much to do with the quality of the movie. What sort of parent brings these children to midnight movies of any sort?
Has anyone here seen the movie? There were 6-year olds and younger there and nobody has criticized that (to my knowledge).
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From: Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net>
To: Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>
Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Tue, Jul 24, 2012 6:21 pm
Subject: Re: Can you NOT think of the ending of GR?
Has anyone here seen the movie? There were 6-year olds and younger there and nobody has criticized that (to my knowledge).
Bekah
http://beckylindroos.wordpress.com/
On Jul 24, 2012, at 3:44 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net> wrote:
On 7/24/2012 4:01 PM, Mark Kohut wrote:
"This willing dissociation of response from violent spectacle has a
downside, as many people have said: we become inured to actual
violence when it excites us on; we forget that that there’s pain and
death, we become connoisseurs of spectacle
Can there be "willing dissociation of response from violent spectacle" if the spectacle isn't seriously violent in the first place. Is Batman movie "violence" even violent enough to dissociate from?
I'm asking for information. Way too old to judge for myself.
P
. This kind of
connoisseurship showed up in the response to 9/11, which many people,
with obvious relish as well as awe, said resembled a movie, a remark
that left anyone with half a brain feeling queasy, if not furious." —
David Denby, The New Yorker
Many said it without any relish. & Pynchon has half-a-brain and
he was furious (in GR).......
He (and many others) go there: "Blame the movie, not the guns/killer."
David Morris
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 12:50 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ban Batman, not guns!
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