TP or NP? Trial balloon goes up

Madeleine Maudlin madeleinemaudlin at gmail.com
Tue Jul 31 12:37:49 CDT 2012


So you agree with me that Titus Flavius and his circle drew upon Hebraic
Texts to invent Jesus and write the Gospels.  I thought sure you'd
disagreed with me there?

I'm not drawing any connections between Pynchon and his invention.

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Alex Colter <recoignishon at gmail.com>wrote:

> Without a doubt there exist real transference between the two, (and one
> may add a later Babylonian influence in the Post-Exile Books of Daniel and
> Enoch) but it seems that the ancient Hebrews did their very best to
> consciously subsume the Canaanite and Sumerian gods under one God, YHWH,
> thus creating something quite different... Call it "anxiety of
> influence"... the Hebrews, writing during the time of Solomon (who was
> reprimanded by YHWH for building temples to the diverse gods of his wives),
> drew upon the various Literature at their disposal to create a uniquely
> Hebraic Text....
> Perhaps we are nearing the relevance to this discussion... but can you
> help me draw the connection to P. and his invention?
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Madeleine Maudlin <
> madeleinemaudlin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> How have I come to see the relevance here?
>>
>> What a wonderful question, Alex, thank you.
>>
>> "...for He hath weighed the world in the balance..."
>>
>> Ever wonder how the Sumerians, Alex, and the people of Avebury, when you
>> really look at it, they knew the actual correct physical weight of the
>> world?
>>
>> Ever thought about how so much of the Old Testament is based on Sumerian
>> legends?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Alex Colter <recoignishon at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Funny, how easily we Wander off-topic... or else neglect to properly
>>> state how we came upon a current thought-process...
>>> Interesting, Madeleine, but how have you come to see the relevance here?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Madeleine Maudlin <
>>> madeleinemaudlin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I love James Clerk Maxwell!
>>>>
>>>> I was just noticing this not an hour ago:
>>>>
>>>> http://atlasobscura.com/place/richat-structure
>>>>
>>>> The explanations are within the parameters of acceptable indoctrinated
>>>> scientific discussion.  Vulcano! etc.  But I was wondering if anybody has
>>>> noticed how closely it resembles these somewhat recent photos:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-034
>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/multimedia/cassini20091209.html
>>>>
>>>> Maxwell, following Reimann, venturing into higher dimensions with his
>>>> quaternions, hyperspatial aether, I wonder if he worked out the
>>>> temperatures around portals such as these?:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/multimedia/pia12867.html
>>>>
>>>> All surely foreseen by that great mystic drunk from the northern
>>>> territories, Sir Hamilton..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis at verizon.net>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well said. Of course, as one who switched  majors from physical
>>>>> chemistry to comparative literature… and then a science writer who kept
>>>>> finding mythical narratives deeply embedded in the aseptic official version
>>>>> of scientific progress (
>>>>> http://www.science20.com/monte_davis/field_james_clerk_maxwell-78111)... I
>>>>> *would* say that, wouldn’t I?****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Alex Colter [mailto:recoignishon at gmail.com]
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:25 AM
>>>>> *To:* Monte Davis
>>>>> *Cc:* alice wellintown; pynchon -l
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: TP or NP? Trial balloon goes up****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not so sure that Mathematics is being satirized in AtD, I think
>>>>> perhaps P. has, since he was a youngun, possessed a very real sort of
>>>>> tension between a Mathematical or Thermodynamic World-View, and a more
>>>>> romantic Byron-esque World-View... the anxiety between the two and the
>>>>> various combats his Psyche engages produce a satirized portrait of Each
>>>>> Hemisphere, Literary and Scientific... our P. is both Timothy Tox with his
>>>>> Golem & Vaucanson with his Duck, both are, more often than not, invisible.
>>>>> ****
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis at verizon.net>
>>>>> wrote:****
>>>>>
>>>>> That's remarkably silly even for you.****
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org [mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of alice wellintown
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:56 AM
>>>>> To: pynchon -l
>>>>> Subject: Re: TP or NP? Trial balloon goes up
>>>>>
>>>>> math is P novels is like physics in the big bang theory tv show.****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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