TP or NP? Trial balloon goes up

[Alex Colter]

"I'm not drawing any connections between Pynchon and his invention."

Therein, dear Madeleine, lies the problem...?

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Madeleine Maudlin <
madeleinemaudlin at gmail.com> wrote:

> So you agree with me that Titus Flavius and his circle drew upon Hebraic
> Texts to invent Jesus and write the Gospels.  I thought sure you'd
> disagreed with me there?
>
> I'm not drawing any connections between Pynchon and his invention.
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Alex Colter <recoignishon at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Without a doubt there exist real transference between the two, (and one
>> may add a later Babylonian influence in the Post-Exile Books of Daniel and
>> Enoch) but it seems that the ancient Hebrews did their very best to
>> consciously subsume the Canaanite and Sumerian gods under one God, YHWH,
>> thus creating something quite different... Call it "anxiety of
>> influence"... the Hebrews, writing during the time of Solomon (who was
>> reprimanded by YHWH for building temples to the diverse gods of his wives),
>> drew upon the various Literature at their disposal to create a uniquely
>> Hebraic Text....
>> Perhaps we are nearing the relevance to this discussion... but can you
>> help me draw the connection to P. and his invention?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Madeleine Maudlin <
>> madeleinemaudlin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> How have I come to see the relevance here?
>>>
>>> What a wonderful question, Alex, thank you.
>>>
>>> "...for He hath weighed the world in the balance..."
>>>
>>> Ever wonder how the Sumerians, Alex, and the people of Avebury, when you
>>> really look at it, they knew the actual correct physical weight of the
>>> world?
>>>
>>> Ever thought about how so much of the Old Testament is based on Sumerian
>>> legends?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Alex Colter <recoignishon at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Funny, how easily we Wander off-topic... or else neglect to properly
>>>> state how we came upon a current thought-process...
>>>> Interesting, Madeleine, but how have you come to see the relevance here?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Madeleine Maudlin <
>>>> madeleinemaudlin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I love James Clerk Maxwell!
>>>>>
>>>>> I was just noticing this not an hour ago:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://atlasobscura.com/place/richat-structure
>>>>>
>>>>> The explanations are within the parameters of acceptable indoctrinated
>>>>> scientific discussion.  Vulcano! etc.  But I was wondering if anybody has
>>>>> noticed how closely it resembles these somewhat recent photos:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-034
>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/multimedia/cassini20091209.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Maxwell, following Reimann, venturing into higher dimensions with his
>>>>> quaternions, hyperspatial aether, I wonder if he worked out the
>>>>> temperatures around portals such as these?:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/multimedia/pia12867.html
>>>>>
>>>>> All surely foreseen by that great mystic drunk from the northern
>>>>> territories, Sir Hamilton..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis at verizon.net>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well said. Of course, as one who switched  majors from physical
>>>>>> chemistry to comparative literature… and then a science writer who kept
>>>>>> finding mythical narratives deeply embedded in the aseptic official version
>>>>>> of scientific progress (
>>>>>> http://www.science20.com/monte_davis/field_james_clerk_maxwell-78111)... I
>>>>>> *would* say that, wouldn’t I?****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Alex Colter [mailto:recoignishon at gmail.com]
>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:25 AM
>>>>>> *To:* Monte Davis
>>>>>> *Cc:* alice wellintown; pynchon -l
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: TP or NP? Trial balloon goes up****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not so sure that Mathematics is being satirized in AtD, I think
>>>>>> perhaps P. has, since he was a youngun, possessed a very real sort of
>>>>>> tension between a Mathematical or Thermodynamic World-View, and a more
>>>>>> romantic Byron-esque World-View... the anxiety between the two and the
>>>>>> various combats his Psyche engages produce a satirized portrait of Each
>>>>>> Hemisphere, Literary and Scientific... our P. is both Timothy Tox with his
>>>>>> Golem & Vaucanson with his Duck, both are, more often than not, invisible.
>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Monte Davis <montedavis at verizon.net>
>>>>>> wrote:****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's remarkably silly even for you.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org [mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org]
>>>>>> On Behalf
>>>>>> Of alice wellintown
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:56 AM
>>>>>> To: pynchon -l
>>>>>> Subject: Re: TP or NP? Trial balloon goes up
>>>>>>
>>>>>> math is P novels is like physics in the big bang theory tv show.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
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