NP - What's So Bad About Theocracy, Anyway?

[David Morris]

A not slight quibble:  Jesus (as Biblical character) didn't separate church
from state making church's authority superior.  His separation was
anti-confrontational.  If State was inferior, it wasn't so in this world's
authority.

David Morris

On Friday, June 22, 2012, Ian Livingston wrote:

> I agree with you almost completely, Joseph, except for this one point:
> Jesus is never anti-authoritarian. Instead, he separates church from state.
> Render unto Caesar and all that. The state is the state, it is not
> compatible with religion. That is one of the chief points of
> differentiation between Christianity and Islam. Mohammed's state is
> theocratic. "St" Paul comes across as quite theocratic, also. He engineered
> the true schism in Christianity. All other sectarian divisions are minor
> after Paul's diversion from Jesus' teachings, the almost inevitable
> subsequent union of Caesar and Christ, and the advent of militant
> christianity in Rome. Now, I'm no christian, but I think this Voris guy is
> as ridiculous as Paul and Constantine, so he scares me a little.
>
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'brook7 at sover.net');>
> > wrote:
>
>>  Christian is a loaded word whose ownership should not be conceded to
>> theocratic killers. What we live in is a classic agonistic state religion
>> of imperial dominance with roots in an upperclass ant-colonial revolution,
>> now shading into a weird blend of plutocracy and militarism which uses
>> personal greed and Old Testament homophobia and glorifications of ethnic
>> cleansing as  pressure valves and scape goats when popular revolution
>> looms.  Even the edited Jesus of the fucked over New Testament  was
>>  peaceful and anti-authoritarian.  It would be impossible to construct the
>> Cristian Right from a popular consensus about what Jesus taught in the New
>> Testament. Where would they fit the Sermon on the Mount or the constant
>> sharing of food?
>> Unfortunately fascism has become a loaded word, but the combination of
>> militarism, corporate power and colonial power structures along with the
>> changing face of the big enemy( Communism, Islam, Terror, Brownness,
>> Blackness, Yellowness, Redness,  ), the claim to absolute imperial power of
>> life and death all point to that word as being as accurate a description of
>> the US as any I can think of.
>> On Jun 15, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Madeleine Maudlin wrote:
>>
>> > Don't we already live in a Christian theocracy?
>> >
>> > "Ugh!"
>> > "Boo!"
>> > "Yawn!"
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 9:59 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'fqmorris at gmail.com');>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/not_parody_alert_whats_so_bad_about_theocracy_anyway
>> >
>> > You may recall Michael Voris from this video, “What’s So Bad About
>> > Theocracy, Anyway?” that explains why the United States needs a
>> > Christian dictator.
>> >
>> > It’s simple: pro-gay, pro-abortion “parasitic” liberals get to vote.
>> >
>> > Voris is the controversial star of the formerly named “Real Catholic
>> > TV” web series. Yesterday, the conservative crusader announced that
>> > his show will henceforth be known as “Church Militant TV” and that he
>> > will be relaunching his brand (The Archdiocese of Detroit have
>> > sensibly asserted that Voris was not authorized to speak for the real
>> > Catholic Church and so now he’s using this more appropriate name).
>> >
>> > You probably think this is an Onion parody, don’t you?
>> >
>> > It’s not.
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> "Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all creeds
> the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the trust in
> reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments of darkness
> groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates than the simplest
> urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant
>
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