List of agnostics

[David Morris]

I've played with the I Ching (not seriously enough to say I've studied
it) one of the oldest of the Chinese classic texts.  At its heart it
is a representation of the universe (maybe the source of Taoism), and
its structure starts with two elements, yang & yin, symbolically
corresponding  to male and female.  So it would agree to a universe of
two frequencies, but they wouldn't be fear and love.  The range of
opposites would be infinite, thus the spinning duality of the yin/yang
mandala.

David Morris

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> From: Madeleine Maudlin <madeleinemaudlin at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: List of agnostics
>
> Some say that there are but two primary vibrations in the world, of which
> all things are varying frequencies: fear and love.  Fear, they say, are the
> lower frequencies; love the higher.  The higher frequencies are more
> energetic.  I don't think many will disagree, or all will concede the idea,
> that higher energy is a manifestation of greater power.
>
> Nietzsche, the greatest of life-affirming humans, proclaimed that life is a
> will to power.
>
> How does that sound?
>
> ***********************
> i like the first statement, it is indeed something i've thought about
> repeatedly. the universe revolving on two basic frequencies is a taoist
> principle, methinks. the two sides of the taoist coin depend on one another
> ... conflict is the axis upon which the tao spins ...  no conflict: no drama
> - no literature, no art, no music, politics, etc. etc. etc. in that way, is
> it perhaps inevitable that americans will continue to spin on the axis of
> the two-party system?
>
> and yet, i don't truly see how fear can be a frequency that "just exists" -
> because it is usually in reaction to something. it is possible that when
> human consciousness apprehends the infinite nature of the universe, fear
> will naturally follow ... like, how can you navigate something that is
> endless, something whose form is a mystery?
>
> love seems something that you can possess - for humanity, for example, not
> talking about a specific, romantic love for another person - unconditional
> love can exist without responding to anything in particular. whereas fear is
> something that comes from apprehending something you don't understand ...
> yet.
>
> just responding, not attempting to propose answers to this puzzle.