List of agnostics

[Alex Colter]

Well unless you folks talk with Tom I don't know where you've gathered that
he's either an agnostic of an atheist?

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 4:53 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:

> Wasn't referring to the people on THIS list, but to the people on the list
> of agnostics that Dave Monroe sent a link to.
>
> LK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Colter **
> Sent: Jun 27, 2012 5:48 PM
> To: David Morris **
> Cc: Phillip Greenlief **, pynchon-l at waste.org
> Subject: Re: List of agnostics
>
> Sure GR's core is deeply Agnostic, but M&D is a different thing
> altogether. Tho' Cherrycoke is of a somewhat dubious orthodoxy he certainly
> worships Christ and misses no opportunity to ridicule Deism...?
> Presbyterian myself,
> Did someone really insist that we were atheists?
> some people on this list......
>
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 3:39 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've played with the I Ching (not seriously enough to say I've studied
>> it) one of the oldest of the Chinese classic texts.  At its heart it
>> is a representation of the universe (maybe the source of Taoism), and
>> its structure starts with two elements, yang & yin, symbolically
>> corresponding  to male and female.  So it would agree to a universe of
>> two frequencies, but they wouldn't be fear and love.  The range of
>> opposites would be infinite, thus the spinning duality of the yin/yang
>> mandala.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > From: Madeleine Maudlin <madeleinemaudlin at gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: List of agnostics
>> >
>> > Some say that there are but two primary vibrations in the world, of
>> which
>> > all things are varying frequencies: fear and love.  Fear, they say, are
>> the
>> > lower frequencies; love the higher.  The higher frequencies are more
>> > energetic.  I don't think many will disagree, or all will concede the
>> idea,
>> > that higher energy is a manifestation of greater power.
>> >
>> > Nietzsche, the greatest of life-affirming humans, proclaimed that life
>> is a
>> > will to power.
>> >
>> > How does that sound?
>> >
>> > ***********************
>> > i like the first statement, it is indeed something i've thought about
>> > repeatedly. the universe revolving on two basic frequencies is a taoist
>> > principle, methinks. the two sides of the taoist coin depend on one
>> another
>> > ... conflict is the axis upon which the tao spins ...  no conflict: no
>> drama
>> > - no literature, no art, no music, politics, etc. etc. etc. in that
>> way, is
>> > it perhaps inevitable that americans will continue to spin on the axis
>> of
>> > the two-party system?
>> >
>> > and yet, i don't truly see how fear can be a frequency that "just
>> exists" -
>> > because it is usually in reaction to something. it is possible that when
>> > human consciousness apprehends the infinite nature of the universe, fear
>> > will naturally follow ... like, how can you navigate something that is
>> > endless, something whose form is a mystery?
>> >
>> > love seems something that you can possess - for humanity, for example,
>> not
>> > talking about a specific, romantic love for another person -
>> unconditional
>> > love can exist without responding to anything in particular. whereas
>> fear is
>> > something that comes from apprehending something you don't understand
>> ...
>> > yet.
>> >
>> > just responding, not attempting to propose answers to this puzzle.
>>
>
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