List of agnostics

[Alex Colter]

and there is a rather *large *difference between atheism and Lucretian
Skepticism like that of Joyce and others on that list. They are properly
agnostic.

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Alex Colter <recoignishon at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well unless you folks talk with Tom I don't know where you've gathered
> that he's either an agnostic of an atheist?
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 4:53 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> Wasn't referring to the people on THIS list, but to the people on the
>> list of agnostics that Dave Monroe sent a link to.
>>
>> LK
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alex Colter **
>> Sent: Jun 27, 2012 5:48 PM
>> To: David Morris **
>> Cc: Phillip Greenlief **, pynchon-l at waste.org
>> Subject: Re: List of agnostics
>>
>> Sure GR's core is deeply Agnostic, but M&D is a different thing
>> altogether. Tho' Cherrycoke is of a somewhat dubious orthodoxy he certainly
>> worships Christ and misses no opportunity to ridicule Deism...?
>> Presbyterian myself,
>> Did someone really insist that we were atheists?
>> some people on this list......
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 3:39 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've played with the I Ching (not seriously enough to say I've studied
>>> it) one of the oldest of the Chinese classic texts.  At its heart it
>>> is a representation of the universe (maybe the source of Taoism), and
>>> its structure starts with two elements, yang & yin, symbolically
>>> corresponding  to male and female.  So it would agree to a universe of
>>> two frequencies, but they wouldn't be fear and love.  The range of
>>> opposites would be infinite, thus the spinning duality of the yin/yang
>>> mandala.
>>>
>>> David Morris
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > From: Madeleine Maudlin <madeleinemaudlin at gmail.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: List of agnostics
>>> >
>>> > Some say that there are but two primary vibrations in the world, of
>>> which
>>> > all things are varying frequencies: fear and love.  Fear, they say,
>>> are the
>>> > lower frequencies; love the higher.  The higher frequencies are more
>>> > energetic.  I don't think many will disagree, or all will concede the
>>> idea,
>>> > that higher energy is a manifestation of greater power.
>>> >
>>> > Nietzsche, the greatest of life-affirming humans, proclaimed that life
>>> is a
>>> > will to power.
>>> >
>>> > How does that sound?
>>> >
>>> > ***********************
>>> > i like the first statement, it is indeed something i've thought about
>>> > repeatedly. the universe revolving on two basic frequencies is a taoist
>>> > principle, methinks. the two sides of the taoist coin depend on one
>>> another
>>> > ... conflict is the axis upon which the tao spins ...  no conflict: no
>>> drama
>>> > - no literature, no art, no music, politics, etc. etc. etc. in that
>>> way, is
>>> > it perhaps inevitable that americans will continue to spin on the axis
>>> of
>>> > the two-party system?
>>> >
>>> > and yet, i don't truly see how fear can be a frequency that "just
>>> exists" -
>>> > because it is usually in reaction to something. it is possible that
>>> when
>>> > human consciousness apprehends the infinite nature of the universe,
>>> fear
>>> > will naturally follow ... like, how can you navigate something that is
>>> > endless, something whose form is a mystery?
>>> >
>>> > love seems something that you can possess - for humanity, for example,
>>> not
>>> > talking about a specific, romantic love for another person -
>>> unconditional
>>> > love can exist without responding to anything in particular. whereas
>>> fear is
>>> > something that comes from apprehending something you don't understand
>>> ...
>>> > yet.
>>> >
>>> > just responding, not attempting to propose answers to this puzzle.
>>>
>>
>> ******
>>
>>
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