List of agnostics

Lemuel Underwing luunderwing at gmail.com
Wed Jun 27 21:52:06 CDT 2012


Moreover it seems that Pynchon does not doubt so much the *Existence *of
God, but rather His Intentions...?

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Lemuel Underwing <luunderwing at gmail.com>wrote:

> O' Mopery. This is neither the Place nor Time. I joined this list for
> conversation on the Works of Pynchon not some incredibly boring argument
> over the existence of God. Obviously I made a wrong turn somewhere, this
> couldn't be the *Pynchon *List...
>
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:44 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> OK.  This is deserving of analysis.  More soon.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 27, 2012, Lemuel Underwing wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> for example:
>>> "The Ascent to Christ is a struggle thro' one heresy after another,
>>> River-wise up-country into a proliferation of Sects and Sects branching
>>> from Sects, unto Deism, faithless pretending to be holy, and beyond, - ever
>>> away from the Sea, from the Harbor, from all that was serene and certain,
>>> into an Interior unmapp'd, a Realm of Doubt. The Nights. The Storms and
>>> Beasts. The Falls, the Rapids,...the America of the Soul."
>>> -The Reverend Wicks Cherrycoke, '*Undelivered Sermons'*
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Lemuel Underwing <luunderwing at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I can't be less interested in what most of your religious (or
>>> nonreligious) beliefs are, how about we talk about the subject of faith in
>>> the works of Pynchon, hey? That would be an interesting discussion and it
>>> would allow us to expound upon our own beliefs (or non-beliefs) in relation
>>> to his body of work?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net>wrote:
>>>
>>> i continue to keep my spirituality personal, silent, and unexplained.
>>>
>>> please don't lump me in any of the aforementioned boxes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 27, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Alex Colter <recoignishon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well unless you folks talk with Tom I don't know where you've gathered
>>> that he's either an agnostic of an atheist?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 4:53 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Wasn't referring to the people on THIS list, but to the people on the
>>> list of agnostics that Dave Monroe sent a link to.
>>>
>>> LK
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Alex Colter **
>>> Sent: Jun 27, 2012 5:48 PM
>>> To: David Morris **
>>> Cc: Phillip Greenlief **, pynchon-l at waste.org
>>> Subject: Re: List of agnostics
>>>
>>> Sure GR's core is deeply Agnostic, but M&D is a different thing
>>> altogether. Tho' Cherrycoke is of a somewhat dubious orthodoxy he certainly
>>> worships Christ and misses no opportunity to ridicule Deism...?
>>> Presbyterian myself,
>>> Did someone really insist that we were atheists?
>>> some people on this list......
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 3:39 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>> I've played with the I Ching (not seriously enough to say I've studied
>>> it) one of the oldest of the Chinese classic texts.  At its heart it
>>> is a representation of the universe (maybe the source of Taoism), and
>>> its structure starts with two elements, yang & yin, symbolically
>>> corresponding  to male and female.  So it would agree to a universe of
>>> two frequencies, but they wouldn't be fear and love.  The range of
>>> opposites would be infinite, thus the spinning duality of the yin/yang
>>> mandala.
>>>
>>> David Morris
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > From: Madeleine Maudlin <madeleinemaudlin at gmail.com>
>>>  > Subject: Re: List of agnostics
>>> >
>>> > Some say
>>>
>>>
>
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