List of agnostics

[Jude Bloom]

I dunno. We're in the midst of what seems unparalleled to me, at least in modern times: the rapid growth of atheism, and the rapid decline in religion. The intellectual & moral normalization of atheism. With the attendant death throes and spasms, i.e. religious craziness & violence. Plus, I think the fall-out from the Catlick priests & little boys is underestimated. For many folks, the Church has been irreparably Sanduskied. Although I see in re-reading Dubliners this week that Joyce was hip to those guys all along, a hundred years ago.

I credit Hitchens, myself.




On Jun 27, 2012, at 7:39 PM, Lemuel Underwing <luunderwing at gmail.com> wrote:

Mr. Malignd, I think you are in the Wrong Place, good sir.  Byron the Bulb is still out there somewhere, a-shinin' down on us, Pynchonite Believers and Unbelievers alike. The Chums of Chance are not one of those more Religious Ballooning Clubs but some of the Crew are certainly more open to Spiritual Experience...? 

There is a site called reddit.com/r/atheism that may be of some use to you, but let us keep ourselves on Task, eh? Let us turn away from the "World" and seek evidence of the Supernatural-in-Pynchon.

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:26 PM, <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
Theological niceties aside, what at bottom is faith other than an irrational belief in a supernatural spirit world, for which there is not a shred of evidence?



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From: Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net>
To: malignd <malignd at aol.com>
Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
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Subject: Re: List of agnostics

On Jun 27, 2012, at 2:49 PM, malignd at aol.com wrote:

> I'm an atheist.  The idea that there's a supernatural diety who created the universe and also listens personally to everyone's prayers -- that people believe this ... I can't understand it.  It's the thinking of primitive people trying haplessly to explain the unknown to themselves and yet it persists.
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your analysis of faith seems crude at best, but ok ... do your thing.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: kelber <kelber at mindspring.com>
> To: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Wed, Jun 27, 2012 11:14 am
> Subject: Re: List of agnostics
> 
> It's hard to believe that all the people on this list would identify themselves 
> as agnostics, rather than atheists (though it's possible that Pynchon might be 
> an agnostic - there's no way of knowing, which, I guess, makes us all 
> Pynchon-agnostics).  Lots of people I know say things such as "I'm not 
> religious, but I still think there's some sort of intelligence out there."  I 
> don't think they mean it in the Arthur C. Clarke sense, but more in a 
> spiritual-lite fear of there not being some sort of overriding moral force 
> guiding all that we do.  Personally, I'm an atheist:  there's no god, but if you 
> want to be religious, shut the fuck up about it!
> 
> Laura
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
> >Sent: Jun 27, 2012 10:41 AM
> >To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> >Subject: List of agnostics
> >
> >Thomas Pynchon, (born 1937): Catholic-raised author of The Crying of
> >Lot 49 and Gravity's Rainbow. According to former friend, Jules
> >Siegel, "he went to mass and confessed, though to what would be a
> >mystery."
> >
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_agnostics#Authors
> 

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