List of agnostics

Lemuel Underwing luunderwing at gmail.com
Thu Jun 28 00:02:44 CDT 2012


is there some sort of Religious Paranoia or a Religion *of *Paranoia?

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Jude Bloom <jude at bloomradio.com> wrote:

> I dunno. We're in the midst of what seems unparalleled to me, at least in
> modern times: the rapid growth of atheism, and the rapid decline in
> religion. The intellectual & moral normalization of atheism. With the
> attendant death throes and spasms, i.e. religious craziness & violence.
> Plus, I think the fall-out from the Catlick priests & little boys is
> underestimated. For many folks, the Church has been irreparably Sanduskied.
> Although I see in re-reading Dubliners this week that Joyce was hip to
> those guys all along, a hundred years ago.
>
> I credit Hitchens, myself.
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 27, 2012, at 7:39 PM, Lemuel Underwing <luunderwing at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Mr. Malignd, I think you are in the Wrong Place, good sir.  Byron the Bulb
> is still out there somewhere, a-shinin' down on us, Pynchonite Believers
> and Unbelievers alike. The Chums of Chance are not one of those more
> Religious Ballooning Clubs but some of the Crew are certainly more open to
> Spiritual Experience...?
>
> There is a site called reddit.com/r/atheism that may be of some use to
> you, but let us keep ourselves on Task, eh? Let us turn away from the
> "World" and seek evidence of the Supernatural-in-Pynchon.
>
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:26 PM, <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Theological niceties aside, what at bottom is faith other than an
>> irrational belief in a supernatural spirit world, for which there is not a
>> shred of evidence?
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net>
>> To: malignd <malignd at aol.com>
>> Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Wed, Jun 27, 2012 7:20 pm
>> Subject: Re: List of agnostics
>>
>>  On Jun 27, 2012, at 2:49 PM, malignd at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>   I'm an atheist.  The idea that there's a supernatural diety who
>> created the universe and also listens personally to everyone's prayers --
>> that people believe this ... I can't understand it.  It's the thinking of
>> primitive people trying haplessly to explain the unknown to themselves and
>> yet it persists.
>>
>>
>>  ************************************
>>
>>  your analysis of faith seems crude at best, but ok ... do your thing.
>>
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> From: kelber <kelber at mindspring.com>
>> To: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Wed, Jun 27, 2012 11:14 am
>> Subject: Re: List of agnostics
>>
>>  It's hard to believe that all the people on this list would identify themselves
>> as agnostics, rather than atheists (though it's possible that Pynchon might be
>> an agnostic - there's no way of knowing, which, I guess, makes us all
>> Pynchon-agnostics).  Lots of people I know say things such as "I'm not
>> religious, but I still think there's some sort of intelligence out there."  I
>> don't think they mean it in the Arthur C. Clarke sense, but more in a
>> spiritual-lite fear of there not being some sort of overriding moral force
>> guiding all that we do.  Personally, I'm an atheist:  there's no god, but if you
>> want to be religious, shut the fuck up about it!
>>
>> Laura
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: Dave Monroe < <against.the.dave at gmail.com>against.the.dave at gmail.com>
>> >Sent: Jun 27, 2012 10:41 AM
>> >To: pynchon -l < <pynchon-l at waste.org>pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> >Subject: List of agnostics
>> >
>> >Thomas Pynchon, (born 1937): Catholic-raised author of The Crying of
>> >Lot 49 and Gravity's Rainbow. According to former friend, Jules
>> >Siegel, "he went to mass and confessed, though to what would be a
>> >mystery."
>> >
>> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_agnostics#Authors>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_agnostics#Authors
>>
>>
>
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