List of agnostics

[Mark Kohut]

Then there is the probable truth that much meaning, much word meaning, is metaphoric, loosely
wrapped around a web of meanings....
 
Check out the meanings of "to be" in various languages and cultures. Precision even means something different
with such defintions....
 
Talkin's easy; communicating is hard. 
 

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 From: Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com>
To: Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com> 
Cc: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>; Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>; pynchon-l at waste.org 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: List of agnostics
  

Yes, without precisely defined terms, it is impossible to communicate effectively, and at the same time, limiting oneself to the precise definitions of words may keep the boundaries of understanding from stretching. 

I remember the first time a musician friend told me that a mutual friend "had his jaws tight" with him about something. That might not apply precisely to the discussion at hand, but it made me think about something in a completely different way.


On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com> wrote:

Hell, the experience of tasting lunch is "ineffable". What people mean by "inexpressible" is that it takes too many words too carefully considered to actually communicate the matter in question. What, for instance, do religion, spirituality, spiritualism, agnosticism, and atheism really mean? Probably something somewhat different to each user of the word in question. If meaning were limited to denotative functions, communication might be simpler, but novelty would likely be limited. That's just a part of what makes it possible to continue to disagree about things we really share a certain consensus on.
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>On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 5:49 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
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>On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 6:16 AM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net> wrote:
>>> On 6/29/2012 4:53 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen wrote:
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>>> Which brings up the subject of Lemuel.  Newcomers a lot of times act like him.  It's not necessarily that they're complete jackasses.  They just don't understand what they have gotten into.  And we can't tell them.
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>>He seem to desire negative attention, and the best response to such is none.
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>"Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the trust in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments of darkness groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates than the simplest urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant
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