Piss Christ, Madonna with Dung (WAS:This is Why We Fight...)

[Bled Welder]

"rather than peeing on Dick Cheney, eg, it'd be immensely moresatisfying to verbally persuade him to adopt pacifistic positions andrepudiate his warlike past and - like Nobel - have a care forposterity and fund a Cheney Peace Prize, eg."
Just updating my Facetious Detection software here.  You jest here, right?


> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 11:20:06 -0500
> Subject: Re: Piss Christ, Madonna with Dung (WAS:This is Why We Fight...)
> From: michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com
> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> 
> bandwraith wrote:
> 
> > up arms in the first place. They wanted to perform
> > for the camera, to go viral on You Tube.
> >
> 
> also playing a part might be the homoerotic urge to expose oneself to
> fellows one likes, and I think adrenaline (initially mistyped
> "adrenalime" - might be an interesting combo) stimulates urination,
> and it's an ancient byword - I remember people talking about watering
> the funeral flowers when Reagan died, eg - must confess that like a
> lot of ancient and modern bywords it doesn't really compute to me that
> much, like that phrase in the King James Bible, in the Old Testament
> where they talk about "destroying all who piss against the wall" or
> something like that
> 
> weird things people do or say...
> 
> -- or like this sports clip I saw where Shaq after going up for a dunk
> wraps his legs around the guy guarding him, humps his abdomen a little
> bit and shoves him in the chest so the fellow ends up out of bounds,
> all on the way down, it was part of the "10 great moments of
> disrespect" on the TV in the gym locker room the other day and there
> was a guy standing right by the locker my clothes were in so I got
> caught up in watching it, but it struck me as a pretty weird thing to
> do
> 
>  -- or when you talk vigorously and vociferously to somebody they
> might say you're chewing their ear or even chewing their butt which is
> the furthest thing from your mind, if you're really just trying to
> exert moral suasion verbally...
> 
> rather than peeing on Dick Cheney, eg, it'd be immensely more
> satisfying to verbally persuade him to adopt pacifistic positions and
> repudiate his warlike past and - like Nobel - have a care for
> posterity and fund a Cheney Peace Prize, eg.
> 
> or like the story about the "v" sign in England, going back to one of
> their incursions into France ("I fart in your general direction")
> where the french cut off the archers' fingers and then the English
> came back and beat the heck out of them, and ever since - for 700
> years!! - there's apparently this gesture (this english guy who's
> actually my supervisor, and friend, at work lately told me) where you
> give the "V" sign but with palm facing in, and it's *still* taken as
> this terrible insult
> 
>  which I guess goes along with the "semiology" stuff and old Peirce
> where meaning is assigned, it's not inherent in the sign.  So thus the
> importance of conventions, and thus the importance of objections to
> such behavior...
 		 	   		  
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