AtD, Lake and overcoming retribution?

Mark Kohut markekohut at yahoo.com
Fri Mar 2 07:20:49 CST 2012


A Dylan line comes to mind, but I'm a fan of him, too. 

p. 484 Deuce speaking: "Lake.......please forgive me.
 Lake: "..but I never heard that Swede say love honor and forgive (italicized)
then another typically lyrical paragraph about how he kept desiring her.........
"and she finally started paying attention as she felt it turning to power for her"--
[an expressed thematic focus of one David Morris, spar--like online] and which, when
held onto by Lake kept Deuce from reverting to "old Deuce"...p.485. 
 
And, p. 487 is the scene where Lake coudda but doesn't kill Deuce.....(after an
earlier reflection on why not?)
 
If that can't be simplified, explanatorily, into All You Need is Love then I'm no oversimplifier.
 
 
And, as mentioned, Lake's friend Tace brings up the 'pop Freudian" psychological
observations---after Lake sez she always hated her father (after leaving home)-----
that Lake united with her father's killer(s) to symbolically kill him..............
And hates the one she loves...as herself?
 
Yet/And stops the cycle of retribution. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

From: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
To: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> 
Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org> 
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: AtD, Lake and overcoming retribution?


This take is a perfect example of why P's later fiction falls flat.  Tortured fan-take.

On Thursday, March 1, 2012, Mark Kohut wrote:

Lake. virtually disowned by dad, with no attempt to understand, no second chance, after a rebellious absquatulation.
>So, she accepts her rejection...and marries one of her dad's killers and fucks them both.
>Dad was 'dead' to her AND what a rejection back, eh?  Mirrored 'revenge' against her dad?
>Yet unlike her brothers, she is not visited by her dad's ghost.
> 
>Could fucking his killers be some kind of crazy metaphor for..............forgiveness?; forgiveness as forgetting?
>Way to overcome the endless cycle of retribution?
> 
> 
>In sections after she has accepted her dad's death, this notion is actually expressed by her friend, the Sheriff's wife,,
>as is the notion that she may have coupled with Deuce and Sloat and married Deuce to join with her dad's killer(s),
> 
>Is Lake, with Cyprian,  the largest-souled woman in the book? (Have some stuff on soul still brewing, still distilling)
>



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