Speaking of Carl Jung

[Jed Kelestron]

Hard to believe that biographies of us plisters would have any less darkness in them than Jung's. 



On Mar 27, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com> wrote:

> It's easy to find what's wrong in people's words and actions,
> especially once they are out of date; it requires something else to
> merit praise oneself by assimilating what others have done right and
> move forward with that. God shitting on the cathedral makes an awful
> lot of sense to me. Sounds like a good dream, referencing the manner
> in which the cathedral shits on humans.
> 
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Matthew Cissell <macissell at yahoo.es> wrote:
>> Richard Wolin shines a pretty poor light on him  in the book "The Seduction
>> of Unreason". He mentions the story about god sitting on the cathedral
>> 
>> mc
>> 
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>> From: Jed Kelestron <jedkelestron at gmail.com>
>> To: Billy Genocide <billygenocide at gmail.com>
>> Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:07 AM
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Speaking of Carl Jung
>> 
>> Anything the psychology of his or this day would condone is so lame it's
>> scary.
>> 
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>> On Mar 26, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Billy Genocide <billygenocide at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Well, I'm basically in agreement with Noll, but I don't think it's a bad
>> thing. Especially now that Jung's Red Book has been published, it can't be
>> denied that his personal techniques were more along the lines of those of
>> magician's and "pagans" than anything even the psychology of his day would
>> have condoned, let alone modern psychology. Jung talks about having visions,
>> meeting "people," astral entities, talking and communing with them.  It is
>> my opinion that Noll's perspective is at least more accurate than Memories,
>> Dreams and Reflections. Much of the latter was actually written by Aniela
>> Jaffe who herself did much to whitewash Jung on top of yielding to pressure
>> from Jung's family to edit many things out.
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Jed Kelestron <jedkelestron at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> It's all fiction. You're kidding when you say 'real look' I hope
>> 
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>> On Mar 26, 2012, at 9:06 AM, Billy Genocide <billygenocide at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Memories, Dreams and Reflections is edited and whitewashed bullshit released
>> posthumously. If you want a real look at Jung's life you should read Aryan
>> Christ by Richard Noll.
>> 
>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Jed Kelestron <jedkelestron at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Memories Dreams and Reflections. His autobiography.
>> 
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>> On Mar 25, 2012, at 6:51 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I like, but source, please?
>> 
>> On Sunday, March 25, 2012, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Seems he had a recurrent boyhood dream in which God
>>> would shit fromon high on the Cathedral at Basel.
>>> 
>>> Now THAT'S "Shit,Money & the Word' ......
>>> 
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> -- 
> "Less than any man have I  excuse for prejudice; and I feel for all
> creeds the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the
> trust in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments
> of darkness groping for the sun. I know no more about the ultimates
> than the simplest urchin in the streets." -- Will Durant