(np) big O, say it isn't so...

[David Morris]

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com> wrote:
>> What Laura see as a clear-eyed realism is actually ultra-myopathy.  If
>> she can't see the difference between Us versus Them, if she thinks
>> corporations are going to make Obama a shoe-in, if she can't see the
>> difference between an attempt at accommodation of some of Their goals
>> (misguided as it's been) and being in Their camp (and essentially no
>> different), then I rest my case...

I don't think you've followed my logic at all (my fault, I'm sure), so
let me try to be more clear.  I'm not at all arguing about the
likelihood of Obama's reelection.  I'm arguing that Laura's view of
the political scene/realities is not seeing the forest for the trees:

Laura:  "I see the banker-friendly, insurance-industry-loving,
war-mongering leg.  Obviously, Henry sees the other leg.  Obama's a
shoo-in for a second term, given the love-fest with his corporate
backers."

> Your argument as seems, essentially, to be:
> a) there is no difference between accommodating some corporate aims and full entrenchment in "Their camp";

Just the opposite.  That seems to be Laura's view.  Obama's futile
attempts to enlist bipartisanship was naiveté at best, and the worst
form of negotiating a deal ever.  That said, he's not at all
entrenched in Their camp, as Laura’s “one leg in each” proposes.
Laura can't see the stark difference between Obama and the Red team
because he's not as pure politically as she would like.  She probably
voted for Nader in 2000.  She's bought into the "there's no difference
between the two" lie.

>b) corporations will not back Obama, c) so his re-election contestable;
> d) therefore Obama is in "Their camp"; and e) it is myopic to think
> Obama will easily win in November.

Republicans with corporate backing will far outspend the Republicans
in 2012.  That said, I think Obama will be reelected., but not because
(as Laura posits) he’s backed by Corporations.  The Republicans have
let the looneys take over their party, and most of the Country sees
how crazy they are.  They see the difference.

David Morris