Hardly TRP at all, yet............

[Joe Allonby]

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On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Heikki Raudaskoski
<hraudask at sun3.oulu.fi> wrote:
>
> As someone who has spent three months in Ohio, I can't understand this
> vitriol either. When it comes to fiction, however, there does seem to be
> a tradition of portraying Ohio.
>
> "The zone sometimes appears where we least expect it. In Ohio, for
> instance. In the literary imagination and the popular imagination alike,
> Ohio has long maintained, as they say, a low profile. Its image is one
> of colorlessness and poverty of associations. It is middle-American in
> every sense: middling in its landscapes and natural phenomena, culturally
> middling, sociologically middling - not, one would think, likely raw
> material for ontological improvisation. Yet, as we have seen, a number of
> postmodernist writers have chosen to improvise on the theme of Ohio:
> Patchen in The Journal of Albion Moonlight, Barthelme in Up, Aloft in
> the Air, Davenport in The Invention of Photography in Toledo. The zone
> of Ohio, it would appear, is a recurrent feature of postmodernist writing,
> a topos in both senses, geographical as well as rhetorical. --- [I]n
> order to understand why Ohio, of all places, belongs to the postmodernist
> repertoire, we need to take into account the semiotics of American space
> in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries."
> Brian McHale, Postmodernist Fiction (1987), p. 49.
>
> This was, of course, before AtD, yet after VL, where DL tries to hide in
> the middle-American town of Columbus, OH, in the guise of a moderate clerk.
>
> [Cf. Sherwood Anderson et al...]
>
>
> Heikki
>
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012, rich wrote:
>
>> I think the sentiments are fairly parallel. not sure where all this vitriol
>> about Ohio comes from. i think it's dumb
>>
>> rich
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 10:23 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > I think this thread has been about Columbus, OH, not the Spanish explorer.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> i find all this columbus hating rather tiresome. as if native peoples
>> >> were living in harmony and not murdering each other, too. read fathers &
>> >> crows. it's standard reductions of a complicated world into an easily
>> >> identifiable good guy-bad guy history which I find moronic. i dont condone
>> >> wounded knee or cortez or like injustices but surely we can be a bit more
>> >> discerning than chorusing cortez the killer.
>> >>
>> >> rich
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Markekohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Yeah it started with Columbus and spread from the asshole of Ohio out.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPad
>> >>>
>> >>> On Nov 5, 2012, at 5:27 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> amen to that...
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 4:13 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> there's enough mediocrity to go around no matter where you are
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Kirn is a novelist, as you may know, covering this election as a
>> >>>>> writer not like a journalist. I am not sending this to
>> >>>>> start plist conversations on the election or OHIO, yet I bet, in the
>> >>>>> way we do, it might and they will be better than some journalists'.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I am sending it because the very novelistic judgment of "mediocrity"
>> >>>>> reminds me like a knocking stick of TRP's take on OHIO, via
>> >>>>> the Swiftian savaging of Columbus in that greater and greater book:
>> >>>>> Against the Day. And, of course, Columbus has naming resonance
>> >>>>> with the promise of America. Goodbye,Columbus (but I hope you come
>> >>>>> through for this election. Again.)
>> >>>>> **
>> >>>>> *The New Republic (@tnr <https://twitter.com/tnr>)*
>> >>>>> 11/5/12, 8:00 AM <https://twitter.com/tnr/status/265438354118684672>
>> >>>>> . at walterkirn <https://twitter.com/@walterkirn> says the fact that
>> >>>>> #Ohio <http://search.twitter.com/search?q=#Ohio>, the cradle of U.S.
>> >>>>> mediocrity, gets to pick the president is terrifying bit.ly/SsPXxC<http://t.co/N7ZouPUm>
>> >>>>> **Download the official Twitter app here<https://twitter.com/download>
>> >>>>> ****Sent from my iPad
>> >>>>> ****
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
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