NP - What Occupy Did to 2012, What It Will Do to 2013
David Morris
fqmorris at gmail.com
Sun Nov 11 13:54:22 CST 2012
Trolls R tempting. That's Y they're called trolls.
On Sunday, November 11, 2012, Ian Livingston wrote:
> Um. Not so old as all that, but I have great-neices-and nephews whose
> parents help to keep me informed about their concerns. I have always been a
> lizard, thank you.
>
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Bled Welder <bledwelder at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Spread your wings for the humans. For all of us, you freakazoid.
>
> Tell us the eternal tale of what, one day, ages ago, you ingested yourself
> from a bazillion years ago, then you drank some passion fruit, and then
> turned yourself into Ian.
>
> I fucking love Ians, I love you fucking people!
>
> Now let me watch you work. We are workaholics. These stupid idiots don't
> realize it. But just explain to them, starting now, what an Ian is. Do
> they have brains? Will you allow them into your spiritual world, you
> never-dying Livingston?
>
> Come on and do it. I get to have fun now, yes.
>
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Bled Welder <bledwelder at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> How fucking old are you, Livingston? Come on. Stick out your lizard lips
> and show these stupid humans how old you are.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> I think one of the greatest factors OWS contributed was its impact on the
> youth vote. Once the movement responded to the problems of planted agents
> provocateurs, homeless followers, and police brutality by evolving beyond a
> protest movement into a political movement, their attractiveness to young
> voters increased dramatically, I suspect (extrapolating from the young
> people I know--which is a very small sample), and they put effort into
> getting out the vote. Then, of course, the work they've done post-Sandy
> made front pages again, again with positive associations. The message
> remains the same: it's up to us to change things because the government has
> become unresponsive to the wishes and needs of the people. That resonates
> clearly in these times.
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:39 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> No need to prolong this. But prior to OWS, despite polls showing the
> public didn't care about deficit reduction, that was the only thing the GOP
> harped on, and Obama wasn't disagreeing much. OWS IMHO very effectively
> turned the conversation to economic just, not austerity. Europe still
> doesn't get that one.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:28 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> most people polled said deficit reduction wasn't one of their major
> concerns. Jobs and others were. I'm not saying OWS didnt raise some
> sort of awareness but so much of what people were feeling they were
> feeling so personally (their wages, retirement funds, etc.) that even
> without OWS around their votes wouldn't be any different from the
> election results.
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:10 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Occupy successfully changed the predominant conversation from deficit
> > reduction to income and opportunity inequality. THAT's what Pierce is
> > talking about, and Romney's 47% secret recording played into occupy
> > perfectly.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:55 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think tha'ts a stretch. u didnt need a weatherman...etc etc. I think
> >> many people were plain insulted by the Romney clap trap--they didnt
> >> need a movement to tell them not to vote for him. it's also a
> >> statement that hardly could be proved anyway.
> >> what about the african american, latino, immigrant, lgbt and wome
>
>
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