Very misc related to grace
Markekohut
markekohut at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 27 11:27:49 CST 2012
Once again, I disagree like a broken Ferris wheel.
His ideas matter.....he had a vision of History, of the Human and much more...he is not religion-haunted without having metaphysical, religious notions that are manifested in the fiction---even if his are differently nuanced and ultimately "agnostic" (not just re a Supreme Being) about religion and much metaphysics.
He uses the Uncanny, the weird, the unknown---and That is a value, I suggest....
You are absolutely wrong about the ending of AtD...your ad lib makes it a different book....(almost ) every word matters in great writers and he is one or close enough and has tried to be....
Broken Record.
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On Nov 27, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net> wrote:
> Yes. The "Big Ideas" are means to ends--the ends being the inventive portrayal of the uncanny, the weird, the divine, the unknown, not to exclude the scary and funny.
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> He doesn't write philosophical fiction or novels of ideas--he's not asking what is the purpose of our existence, the meaning of life.
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> He might well have said they fly toward grace or somethin'. It would have sounded too flippant but it wouldn't have changed anything.
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> So long as it works for him, and it pretty much has.
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> On 11/26/2012 9:10 PM, David Morris wrote:
>> Well said, Alice!
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>> Paradox, Koans & Pretzil Logic R Pynchon. Yin Yang is about all the blends of duality, rarely the opposites alone. His BIG ideas aren't polemic, they're exploratory.
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>> David Morris
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>> On Monday, November 26, 2012, alice wellintown wrote:
>>> Pynchon likes to take on the BIG ideas (Entropy, History, Virginity,
>>> Gravity...Free Will & Grace) and turn them into pretzil logics or
>>> force them into Koans that paradoxically turn out to be ironic book of
>>> the dead (allusive parables) dead ends.
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>>> Now, I'm no expert on Grace, or Pynchon, but I suspect that his use of
>>> Grace is an example of the propensity described above, and
>>> specifically the paraodoxical BIG idea Grace/Free Will.
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>>> Why Pynchon does this or to what end is open to lotz of readings. I
>>> suspect that he does it because he is lazy; he re-worksd old material
>>> over and over again.
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