Very misc related to grace

[Ian Livingston]

Oh, he is one, alright.


On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Markekohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Once again, I disagree like a broken Ferris wheel.
>
> His ideas matter.....he had a vision of History, of the Human and much
> more...he is not religion-haunted without having metaphysical, religious
> notions that are manifested in the fiction---even if his are differently
> nuanced and ultimately "agnostic" (not just re a Supreme Being) about
> religion and much metaphysics.
>
> He uses the Uncanny, the weird, the unknown---and That is a value, I
> suggest....
>
> You are absolutely wrong about the ending of AtD...your ad lib makes it a
> different book....(almost ) every word matters in great writers and he is
> one or close enough and has tried to be....
>
> Broken Record.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 27, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net> wrote:
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> Yes. The "Big Ideas" are means to ends--the ends being the inventive
> portrayal of the uncanny, the weird, the divine, the unknown,  not to
> exclude the scary and funny.
>
> He doesn't write philosophical fiction or novels of ideas--he's not asking
> what is the purpose of our existence,  the meaning of life.
>
> He might well have said they fly toward grace or somethin'.  It would have
> sounded too flippant but it wouldn't have changed anything.
>
> So long as it works for him, and it pretty much has.
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> On 11/26/2012 9:10 PM, David Morris wrote:
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> Well said, Alice!
>
>  Paradox, Koans & Pretzil Logic R Pynchon.  Yin Yang is about all the
> blends of duality, rarely the opposites alone.  His BIG ideas aren't
> polemic, they're exploratory.
>
>  David Morris
>
> On Monday, November 26, 2012, alice wellintown wrote:
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>> Pynchon likes to take on the BIG ideas (Entropy, History, Virginity,
>> Gravity...Free Will & Grace) and turn them into pretzil logics or
>> force them into Koans that paradoxically turn out to be ironic book of
>> the dead (allusive parables) dead ends.
>>
>> Now, I'm no expert on Grace, or Pynchon, but I suspect that his use of
>> Grace is an example of the propensity described above, and
>> specifically the paraodoxical BIG idea Grace/Free Will.
>>
>> Why Pynchon does this or to what end is open to lotz of readings. I
>> suspect that he does it because he is lazy; he re-worksd old material
>> over and over again.
>>
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