Very misc related to grace

[Markekohut]

I will comment that yes I too agree with Alice and David's characterization here..

BUT all of this description isn't true of every word or line or scene of incredibly rich books....
The description is true in general...Application varies.....

Shakespeare and others are too.....but not everywhere, nor every play---work in TRP's oeuvre---
At once......

and I would argue the books are even richer than these descriptions and contain meaningful multitudes......

Polemical vs. Exploratory is a false (narrow) binary, I would say......he explores BIG IDEAS 
Like few since Melville........yet, he sides via sensibility and vision even if his main BIG IDEA
Is Not to Side too narrowly....his books are infused with religion even if his religious beliefs
Are not shown (easily).....as we've all seemed to agree..........Which compared to some writers should mean he believes religion matters in life at least, no?

Polemical in fiction usually means prosaically heavy-handed about one's IDEAS....ever read bad fiction that does that? .....Catholic novels?    The Left Behind series? .....

Broken Record..




but I would...

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On Nov 26, 2012, at 9:10 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well said, Alice!
> 
> Paradox, Koans & Pretzil Logic R Pynchon.  Yin Yang is about all the blends of duality, rarely the opposites alone.  His BIG ideas aren't polemic, they're exploratory.
> 
> David Morris
> 
> On Monday, November 26, 2012, alice wellintown wrote:
>> Pynchon likes to take on the BIG ideas (Entropy, History, Virginity,
>> Gravity...Free Will & Grace) and turn them into pretzil logics or
>> force them into Koans that paradoxically turn out to be ironic book of
>> the dead (allusive parables) dead ends.
>> 
>> Now, I'm no expert on Grace, or Pynchon, but I suspect that his use of
>> Grace is an example of the propensity described above, and
>> specifically the paraodoxical BIG idea Grace/Free Will.
>> 
>> Why Pynchon does this or to what end is open to lotz of readings. I
>> suspect that he does it because he is lazy; he re-worksd old material
>> over and over again.
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