Siege Party at Gatsby's (WAS- Re: 60s..cultural turn inward?)

[alice wellintown]

The cornerstone of modernism: the narrator who looks for the V-ness he
thought was His own.

 *Modernism*: diverse cross-fertilization between cultures, between art
forms and
between disciplines---the need to confront violence, nihilism,
and despair; the fascination with, but fear of, the
unconscious; the centrality of a dramatized narrator who is
not omniscient but rather himself searching for
understanding; a symbolic richness which invites multiple
interpretations (influence of French Symbolism), radical
redefinition of the real (space & time)  (W and H James, Freud, Bergson,
Einstein & Co. ...)
Colonial programs, ruthless exploitation, journey (up the
Congo) or Modern (T.S. Eliot secularized) quest or symbolic
exploration into the darkest heart (consciousness) of Man,
manipulation of the reader's experience of time and space by
means of disruption of narrative chronology and
ontological/epistemological differentiation and the
representation of consciousness (stream and multiple) by the
description of events, and the use of the  reflexivity and
self-consciousness


On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Markekohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:

> ROFL...thanks.
>
> I still like the other slant on that hugely "ambiguous" poetic writer,
> TRP, that bandwraith has brought forward.......postmodern, schmo modern,
> Stencil IS trying to figure out V. too....
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 7, 2013, at 10:22 AM, alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> The reason that Stencil refers to himself as Stencil is obvious enough
> since the author tells us that Stencil is a parodic character, a parody of
> Henry Adams. Though the P-Industry has cast Stencil in the role of
> postmodern character, aware of his two dimensional existence, this casting
> is projection, often a projection that applies the theory of postmodern
> deaths, death of character, plot, etc....not willing to, or not able to
> abide the total uselessness of their Educations, they, like Robert Graves,
> hunt the albino in the sewer and shoot themselves in the ass.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 9:40 AM, <bandwraith at aol.com> wrote:
>
>>  The secular miracle continues, and despite the usual pejorative
>> connotations, continues to make progress. Inwardness is a social phenomenon
>> as well as an individual journey; who are we as much as who am I. Sharing
>> literary experiences is one way of making the journey more interesting. For
>> awhile I have wondered- what is the plot of V.? Finally it occurred to me
>> that at least part of the answer to that question is the recognition that
>> Herbert Stencil is asking the same question, and for many of the same
>> reasons.
>>
>> Herbert, however, seems to have the good sense and self-awareness to
>> guess that he is a fictional character in a two dimensional world. Why else
>> would he refer to himself as "he"? So, he may be further along than many of
>> us, at least in terms of self-actualization.
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> From: Markekohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
>> To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Sat, Apr 6, 2013 3:04 pm
>> Subject: Fwd: 60s..cultural turn inward?
>>
>>  re Pynchon and his theme of inwardness.....
>>
>>  I have been thinking of how hard it may be to feel the lack of
>> inwardness by most in the culture
>> In the time before (my/our) time, since we swam in the inwardness....
>>
>>
>>      *Maria Popova (@brainpicker <https://twitter.com/brainpicker>)*
>> 4/6/13, 2:02 PM<https://twitter.com/brainpicker/status/320597290098245632>
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>> Sent from my iPad
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