First Page of Bleeding Edge?

Tue Apr 16 22:00:46 CDT 2013

Yes!  :-) 

I think I've done 3 readings of AtD now. 

Bekah

On Apr 16, 2013, at 5:13 PM, Rich Clavey <antizoyd at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I agree with you about AtD. It also bears many repeated readings.
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> --- On Tue, 4/16/13, Markekohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> From: Markekohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: First Page of Bleeding Edge?
>> To: "Rich Clavey" <antizoyd at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: "pynchon-l at waste.org" <pynchon-l at waste.org>, "kelber at mindspring.com" <kelber at mindspring.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, April 16, 2013, 6:11 PM
>> Okay, I'm not going to defend IV, nor
>> this one but I am going to say the hidden density of AtD
>> Is still virtually untapped. 
>> GR is expressive, in-your-face density. Like the greatest of
>> German expressionists. Munch?
>> Against the Day is the work of a magician of concealment.
>> One of the greatest landscape artists
>> Ever---Turner with light writ so large it covers walls.
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>> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Apr 16, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Rich Clavey <antizoyd at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> Exactly. It was those mind expanding sentences in GR
>> that when I read one I had to mentally catch my breath and
>> wonder in amazement. And they were just piled one on top of
>> another, seemingly, in that book. You can see glimpses of
>> that kind of writing in his later books (especially
>> M&D), but only here and there. I think revisiting that
>> kind of dense connected writing is what I always hope for in
>> a new Pynchon book. How many times can one read IV? After
>> reading GR some 6 or 7 times I still read it with a newly
>> born excitement. 
>>> Here's to hoping.
>>> Rich
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>>> --- On Tue, 4/16/13, kelber at mindspring.com
>> <kelber at mindspring.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> From: kelber at mindspring.com
>> <kelber at mindspring.com>
>>> Subject: Re: First Page of Bleeding Edge?
>>> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>>> Date: Tuesday, April 16, 2013, 5:11 PM
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>>> #yiv1570882932 body{font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,
>> sans-serif;background-color:#ffffff;color:black;}#yiv1570882932
>> p{margin:0px;}What's missing the most from VL, IV, and this
>> early fragment of the new novel, are those mind-expanding
>> sentences and passages that take you in multiple directions:
>> organic chemistry tied to fascism, literacy as oppression,
>> etc. Pynchon's not our go-to person for apt descriptions of
>> hippie California or Yuppie NYC - plenty of sources
>> there.  What made him great before the existence of the
>> internet - his ability to see connections, and take us
>> places we might never get on our own - are less exciting in
>> the present, when all of us have the ability to become
>> demi-gods, accessing information, if not insight, by tapping
>> in to the nearest search engine. I'm not dismissing the new
>> novel on the basis of that one excerpt. It may or may not be
>> typical of the entire work. I sincerely hope it's not.
>>> Laura
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> From: malignd at aol.com
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>>> Sent: Apr 16, 2013 6:01 PM
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>>> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
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>>> Subject: Re: First Page of Bleeding Edge?
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>>> Write what you want, of course, but these Norman
>> Rockwell images (I think first tossed in here by Millison)
>> of TP and Jackson (wearing Yankee caps, Pynch teaching
>> Jackson how to tie a fly) are retch provoking.  For all
>> anybody knows he whipped the brat with a belt for failing to
>> memorize the entirety of COL49.
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>>> Nothing like the Great P. who rode the Golem & the
>> Rocket, who Wrote those other tomes, but so very dear and,
>> yes Mark, Warm & Intimate, affectionate as if Jackson
>> was peaking at an early draft of his father's work for the
>> first time. 
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>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> From: Lemuel Underwing <luunderwing at gmail.com>
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>>> To: Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
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>>> Cc: Tyler Wilson <tbsqrd at hotmail.com>;
>> Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>;
>> jamie <jamie at bigdada.com>;
>> Henry Musikar <scuffling at gmail.com>;
>> “pynchon-l at waste.or
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>>> g“ <pynchon-l at waste.org>
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>>> Nothing like the Great P. who rode the Golem & the
>> Rocket, who Wrote those other tomes, but so very dear and,
>> yes Mark, Warm & Intimate, affectionate as if Jackson
>> was peaking at an early draft of his father's work for the
>> first time. 
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>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
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>>> http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0907&msg=137034
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>>> http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0208&msg=69706
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>>> On 4/16/13, Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>>> p. 33 (paginated as p.32)
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>>>> http://booksellers.penguin.com/static/pdf/penguinpress-fall13.pdf
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>>>> On 4/16/13, Tyler Wilson <tbsqrd at hotmail.com>
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>>>>> This isn't directed at you, Mark, or any one
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