Science Against the Day Labor

David Morris fqmorris at gmail.com
Thu Apr 18 22:58:12 CDT 2013


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On Thursday, April 18, 2013, David Morris wrote:

> The urge to dominate and control supersedes all mankind's efforts.  That
> is more Pynchon's message than Science Vs. Madonna.  GR (&V) is more about
> a different S&M.
>
> Poelker's sin was to whore himself for his love of scientific pursuits.
>  He had no ideology, only his own obsessions.
>
> Pointsman's sin was self advancement.  He used his method as a tool to
> dominate others, not for ideology.
>
> Even school children know that technology can be a blessing and a curse.
>  Cults are the tools of people, and cultist and their leaders are
>
> On Thursday, April 18, 2013, alice wellintown wrote:
>
>> Science is not simply a method, like technology it comes with an
>> ideology, and as we speak that ideology, driven by science, is, as several
>> here have confirmed, beyond reproach. Science is a culture. While it is
>> also a method, and in this sense it is like math, it is also a ideological
>> force, as it has been in bed with industry and agri-industry, and now with
>> business industry and tech-industry, and is the cult that capital has made,
>> and this cult is in direct conflict with labor. So, it is OK to resist
>> technology and the science cult? Absolutely.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:25 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Empirical Practice" starts when a child reaches into a hot flame.  Even
>>> amoebae recoil when hurt.
>>>
>>> Do you imply that Religious Practice isn't reality based?  Religion
>>> knows how to control as a primary goal.
>>>
>>> Science doesn't have a mind of its own.  It ain't the anti-sacred.
>>>
>>> David Morris
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 15, 2013, alice wellintown wrote:
>>>
>>>> If God does not, as Milton sez in his famous sonnet, exact day labor
>>>> light denied, this hasn't prevented men from exacting day labor from men,
>>>> light, and even life, denied. Science was not much around to make safe the
>>>> lives of the working men and women we read about in AGTD. Empirical
>>>> practice was the method adopted, trial and selection, the railroad, the
>>>> mines, the textile mills, these had not science, and many lives were lost
>>>> because safety valves were not devised or employed to protect workers from
>>>> exploding steam machines. Sure, science would have made things safer,
>>>> better, if not for the workers, for the bosses  and their bosses, but for
>>>> safety it was the men who worked the mines the factories who improved the
>>>> work, the conditions, the safety. Even the laws of mechanical motion were
>>>> not trumped by these pragmatic and practical men who worked, for the most
>>>> part, without math or the scientific method. But once science began to
>>>> apply its method, like a man with a hammer who sees a nail in every grain
>>>> of sand, science applied its "scientific" method to every inch of man and
>>>> to every hair and every grain of sand. And so, science, systematically,
>>>> took over, from religion, from all other institutions of culture, and to
>>>> all inquires, to thought itself, to every mode of investigation, and it
>>>> claimed to have a better method for advancing all human persuits and
>>>> objectives, even the destruction of all human pursuits and objectives.
>>>> Moreover, not satisfied with using tools, extensions of human power, to
>>>> improve the human lot, to add human tools and science to the existing
>>>> patterns of life, as, say a farmer with a tool in his hand, science
>>>> fashioned organisms, including man, for machaniisms, for machines. So, the
>>>> huge farms, where science applied its method to plants and animals, and the
>>>> huge hospitals (white visitation) where science applied its methods to
>>>> human minds, and the huge, world wars where it applied its killing
>>>> machines, machines that a man might fly in, if he were fashioned to it and
>>>> not the other way round. This is Blicero's launch!
>>>>
>>>
>>
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