A day that lives in infamy

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Not before he destroyed a neutral Cambodia with illegal carpet bombing try to win the war


He ... left Vietnam  in accession to pubic sentiment.





-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net>
To: P-list List <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Wed, Aug 14, 2013 1:16 am
Subject: Re: A day that lives in infamy


Nixon, slimy turd that he was,  still believed the voters could turn  on a 
president and that power alone would not deter the results. He passed the clean 
air act and left Vietnam  in accession to pubic sentiment. Now it feels as if 
there is no sense of accountability. The management of the media is such  a fine 
art that neither party feels compelled to truly heed public opinion. 
On Aug 9, 2013, at 5:26 PM, Mark Kohut wrote:

> We will always have Nixon to kick around, that slimy turd.
> NY Review of Books ‏@nybooks 11m
> On the anniversary of Nixon’s resignation, readings by Gore Vidal, Norman 
Mailer, Garry Wills, and Mary McCarthy http://j.mp/11Sioge 
> 
> From: "kelber at mindspring.com" <kelber at mindspring.com>
> To: pynchon-l at waste.org 
> Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 2:28 PM
> Subject: Re: A day that lives in infamy
> 
> But one thing we still had back then was a relatively independent press, with 
genuine investigative journalists who helped expose the Watergate affair. Ford's 
pardon was a disgrace, of course, but I'm not convinced that it was the first 
step in the road to the current level of NSA surveillance and the trampling of 
the civil rights of voters, poor people and whistleblowers. The consolidation of 
the major news outlets and the systematic buying out of government (not just US) 
by corporate interests, via lobbying and manipulations of existing laws, had 
already begun. It wasn't caused by Ford's pardon, or by Nixon's famous 
megalomania. If Nixon had served time, along with various of his minions, would 
we be living in a flourishing democracy now? Even if Nixon had been a passionate 
democrat and pacifist, the powers-that-be would have replaced him, inevitably, 
with a Reagan. The really overt, opening battle cry, the real day of infamy, 
that got us where we are today, was Reagan's 1981 declaration of war against the 
PATCO workers, which opened up the floodgates of union busting. It was a 
corporate test case on what the American people would swallow. And boy did they 
swallow!
> 
> Laura
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Ian Livingston 
> Sent: Aug 9, 2013 12:31 PM 
> To: alice wellintown 
> Cc: pynchon -l 
> Subject: Re: A day that lives in infamy 
> 
> I was quite young at the time, it was just prior to my 18th birthday, and I 
recall the glee and relief around Minneapolis, where I was living at the time. 
People among my group of counter-culture drop-out types were mighty happy, we 
began to dream that the politicians had been served notice, that they would now 
recognize that they were the servants of the people. Nobody really knew what it 
was all about, only that "we" had taken down the President of the United States. 
While it's true that had it not been for the popular groundswell the 
investigation might have turned out quite differently, the delusion remained 
until September 8, 1974, which I count as the day the government officially 
announced its status as an agency independent of the will of the people, and the 
beginning of all that happened after. But for this one month we had our little 
dream, the people had the power, as Patti Smith later said, to redeem the work 
of fools. 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 6:27 AM, alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com> 
wrote:
> You can't be serious. Nixon obstructed justice after the Burglary. The 
burglary was a far more serious crime than anything Obama has been accused of, 
and the cover up, which some place higher than the burglary, though doing so  is 
questionable, caused the president to resign because he, as president, tried to 
subvert the constitution, to undermine the essence of our democratic system. He 
did not only engage in crimes of political espionage, spy on the competition, he 
engaged in crimes of sabotage. Remember too, that many o the people, groups of 
people he, through abuse of power, damaged, were "competition" only in his 
paranoid mind. Nixon's competition, those who suffered from his crimes, include, 
anyone who opposed his filthy wars, the free press, our system of election, our 
system of justice. Not to mention our History. Your quip here seems to side with 
Nixon on the last of these. 
> 
> The paranoid man in the theatre / theater can't here the rocket. What? It's 
important to keep things in perspective: Obama is not the new Nixon. The world 
is changed, for he better, despite the sufferings from h excesses of global 
capital. We ain't livin in no Nixon Land no mo. 
> 
> 
> On Friday, August 9, 2013, wrote:
> In light of the present-day levels of surveillance, his actions seem almost 
lovably benign and even comical. Ooh, he spied on the competition - horrors!
> 
> Laura
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Ian Livingston 
> Sent: Aug 8, 2013 11:31 PM 
> To: pynchon -l 
> Subject: A day that lives in infamy 
> 
> http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/picture/2013/aug/08/photography-president-nixon
> 
> 
> 


 
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