A day that lives in infamy

[rich]

in more ways than one. US meddling in Cambodia's affairs led to the horror
of the Khmer Rouge, which ironically was deposed finally by the Vietnamese


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:55 PM, <malignd at aol.com> wrote:

> Not before he destroyed a neutral Cambodia with illegal carpet bombing try
> to win the war
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> He ... left Vietnam  in accession to pubic sentiment.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net>
> To: P-list List <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Wed, Aug 14, 2013 1:16 am
> Subject: Re: A day that lives in infamy
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>  Nixon, slimy turd that he was,  still believed the voters could turn  on a
> president and that power alone would not deter the results. He passed the clean
> air act and left Vietnam  in accession to pubic sentiment. Now it feels as if
> there is no sense of accountability. The management of the media is such  a fine
> art that neither party feels compelled to truly heed public opinion.
> On Aug 9, 2013, at 5:26 PM, Mark Kohut wrote:
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> > We will always have Nixon to kick around, that slimy turd.
> > NY Review of Books @nybooks 11m
> > On the anniversary of Nixon’s resignation, readings by Gore Vidal, Norman
> Mailer, Garry Wills, and Mary McCarthy http://j.mp/11Sioge
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> > From: "kelber at mindspring.com" <kelber at mindspring.com>
> > To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> > Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 2:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: A day that lives in infamy
> >
> > But one thing we still had back then was a relatively independent press, with
> genuine investigative journalists who helped expose the Watergate affair. Ford's
> pardon was a disgrace, of course, but I'm not convinced that it was the first
> step in the road to the current level of NSA surveillance and the trampling of
> the civil rights of voters, poor people and whistleblowers. The consolidation of
> the major news outlets and the systematic buying out of government (not just US)
> by corporate interests, via lobbying and manipulations of existing laws, had
> already begun. It wasn't caused by Ford's pardon, or by Nixon's famous
> megalomania. If Nixon had served time, along with various of his minions, would
> we be living in a flourishing democracy now? Even if Nixon had been a passionate
> democrat and pacifist, the powers-that-be would have replaced him, inevitably,
> with a Reagan. The really overt, opening battle cry, the real day of infamy,
> that got us where we are today, was Reagan's 1981 declaration of war against the
> PATCO workers, which opened up the floodgates of union busting. It was a
> corporate test case on what the American people would swallow. And boy did they
> swallow!
> >
> > Laura
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ian Livingston
> > Sent: Aug 9, 2013 12:31 PM
> > To: alice wellintown
> > Cc: pynchon -l
> > Subject: Re: A day that lives in infamy
> >
> > I was quite young at the time, it was just prior to my 18th birthday, and I
> recall the glee and relief around Minneapolis, where I was living at the time.
> People among my group of counter-culture drop-out types were mighty happy, we
> began to dream that the politicians had been served notice, that they would now
> recognize that they were the servants of the people. Nobody really knew what it
> was all about, only that "we" had taken down the President of the United States.
> While it's true that had it not been for the popular groundswell the
> investigation might have turned out quite differently, the delusion remained
> until September 8, 1974, which I count as the day the government officially
> announced its status as an agency independent of the will of the people, and the
> beginning of all that happened after. But for this one month we had our little
> dream, the people had the power, as Patti Smith later said, to redeem the work
> of fools.
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> >
> > On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 6:27 AM, alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > You can't be serious. Nixon obstructed justice after the Burglary. The
> burglary was a far more serious crime than anything Obama has been accused of,
> and the cover up, which some place higher than the burglary, though doing so  is
> questionable, caused the president to resign because he, as president, tried to
> subvert the constitution, to undermine the essence of our democratic system. He
> did not only engage in crimes of political espionage, spy on the competition, he
> engaged in crimes of sabotage. Remember too, that many o the people, groups of
> people he, through abuse of power, damaged, were "competition" only in his
> paranoid mind. Nixon's competition, those who suffered from his crimes, include,
> anyone who opposed his filthy wars, the free press, our system of election, our
> system of justice. Not to mention our History. Your quip here seems to side with
> Nixon on the last of these.
> >
> > The paranoid man in the theatre / theater can't here the rocket. What? It's
> important to keep things in perspective: Obama is not the new Nixon. The world
> is changed, for he better, despite the sufferings from h excesses of global
> capital. We ain't livin in no Nixon Land no mo.
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> > On Friday, August 9, 2013, wrote:
> > In light of the present-day levels of surveillance, his actions seem almost
> lovably benign and even comical. Ooh, he spied on the competition - horrors!
> >
> > Laura
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ian Livingston
> > Sent: Aug 8, 2013 11:31 PM
> > To: pynchon -l
> > Subject: A day that lives in infamy
> >
> > http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/picture/2013/aug/08/photography-president-nixon
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