Horst

Fiona Shnapple fionashnapple at gmail.com
Tue Dec 3 19:39:51 CST 2013


Disgust with the body, its Nature, its Callings, a Protestant, Puritan,
Elect ethic that Pynchon flushes down the toilet in scatological parables
to the tune of one lost harp hilariously tooting its mute Hornet, and one,
as HD suggests, involves a confusing couple-few conflations of metaphors
metonymally swirled un-Coriolisly into specializations above and below the
equatorial currents in a wind tunnel of aviation mathematics.

That's how lost I got in the GR mesh.

But in BE, there are toilet scenes and more toilet scenes. All sorts of
shit going on in the toilet.

On Tuesday, December 3, 2013, David Morris wrote:

> Yea, you lost me too, except for toilets and showers being next to each
> other, but aren't they usually so?
>
> Certain themes (like shit) in GR are heavily influenced by Norman O
> Brown's Life Against Death which is a Neo Freudian analysis. Brown ties
> shit to Swift's Yahoos, shit flingers, and ultimately to money, and all
> that humanity can buy or build with it.  This is where Pynchon's "Shit,
> Money & the Word" comes from.  There is also much more of Brown's  *Life
> Against Death* in GR.  GR lovers really should read it.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Tuesday, December 3, 2013, Heikki Raudaskoski wrote:
>
> In both cases, though, toilets seem to stand metaphorically for something
>> else (the Rocket's wind tunnel in GR, hashslingrzian secrets in BE). Yet
>> the image of the Toiletship can also be seen as a metaphor of metonymy.
>>
>> Heikki
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