Horst

[David Morris]

You don't lose me, but your points don't make a whole, or even a half.
 Scatology is fun, but where do you propose is its point beyond rebellion?

On Tuesday, December 3, 2013, Fiona Shnapple wrote:

> Disgust with the body, its Nature, its Callings, a Protestant, Puritan,
> Elect ethic that Pynchon flushes down the toilet in scatological parables
> to the tune of one lost harp hilariously tooting its mute Hornet, and one,
> as HD suggests, involves a confusing couple-few conflations of metaphors
> metonymally swirled un-Coriolisly into specializations above and below the
> equatorial currents in a wind tunnel of aviation mathematics.
>
> That's how lost I got in the GR mesh.
>
> But in BE, there are toilet scenes and more toilet scenes. All sorts of
> shit going on in the toilet.
>
> On Tuesday, December 3, 2013, David Morris wrote:
>
>> Yea, you lost me too, except for toilets and showers being next to each
>> other, but aren't they usually so?
>>
>> Certain themes (like shit) in GR are heavily influenced by Norman O
>> Brown's Life Against Death which is a Neo Freudian analysis. Brown ties
>> shit to Swift's Yahoos, shit flingers, and ultimately to money, and all
>> that humanity can buy or build with it.  This is where Pynchon's "Shit,
>> Money & the Word" comes from.  There is also much more of Brown's  *Life
>> Against Death* in GR.  GR lovers really should read it.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2013, Heikki Raudaskoski wrote:
>>
>> In both cases, though, toilets seem to stand metaphorically for something
>>> else (the Rocket's wind tunnel in GR, hashslingrzian secrets in BE). Yet
>>> the image of the Toiletship can also be seen as a metaphor of metonymy.
>>>
>>> Heikki
>>> -
>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>>>
>>
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