Our Privacy is Our Liberty

[Joseph Tracy]

I totally agree. There are few more clearly stated amendments than the 4th amendment. And there are few more clear violations of that than the NSA surveillance. The 4th amendment comes right out of the revolution against imperial overreach, the tyranny of unaccountable courts and hierarchical power structures.  Good idea to check out one's Congressperson's and Senator's votes on these issues and send em an e-mail. 

 IMO The entire history of secretive agencies in the US has been a history of  everything that was repudiated in the American revolution and the constitutional balance of powers and Bill of Rights.  

"There is a huge difference between legal programs, legitimate spying, legitimate law enforcement — where individuals are targeted based on a reasonable, individualized suspicion — and these programs of dragnet mass surveillance that put entire populations under an all-seeing eye and save copies forever. These programs were never about terrorism: they're about economic spying, social control, and diplomatic manipulation. They're about power."
   This is an excerpt from an article by Snowden today in a Brazilian paper.

and a federal Judge has agreed that this violates 4th amendment within the last 24 hours
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/17/us/politics/federal-judge-rules-against-nsa-phone-data-program.html

On Dec 17, 2013, at 9:14 AM, David Morris wrote:

> http://www.esquire.com/_mobile/blogs/politics/nsa-surveillance-court-ruling-121613
> 
> Quite simply, there is no more important debate to be had on the historical nature of what an American is. It comes to us from our very beginnings. Privacy is central to who we were, and to who we are, as a democratic self-governing people If it is obsolete then, frankly, so are we.

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