(np) New Pope?

[Ian Livingston]

Paul M says: Sex is such an enormously big deal in the West--and seems to
get bigger the more it is used to sell products.  Zen comes in >from the
East and sort of upsets the applecart as it were.  Does anyone else wonder
about all of this?

Big in the West? India and China alone account nearly 1/3 of the human
population currently living on Earth. India being the birthplace of
Buddhism, and China the birthplace of Chan which became Zen upon its
walkabout to Japan. Seems to me they take sex pretty seriously. The
Japanese have some pretty wacky sex trips going on.

Sex is big in the West because anti-sex is big in the West. The Puritans
put the hex on sex with their biblical insecurities, and the
Catholics--well, as Zappa noted, Catholics are notoriously horny, what can
you say? I rather think it has more to do with when and where people
develop sufficient emotional intelligence to differentiate between the need
for a good bowel movement or a better diet and the desire to ejaculate that
determines their susceptibility to sexual messages or temptations. You can
be a spiritual leader and still have little emotional intelligence. Many
Buddhist sangha, like their Catholic counterparts, live apart from the
other sex and the cesspool of modern media from youth, before they have a
chance to develop any understanding of sex. They are naive and horny and
they have few defenses against their own impulses other than prayer and
masturbation. One must know the appetites before they can control them. And
then there's the latin gift of machismo, according to which conviction it
is better to have several families with a number of different women than to
suffer the unmanly humiliation of sexual deprivation because of
inconvenient offspring.

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>wrote:

>  On 2/13/2013 8:03 AM, Monte Davis wrote:
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>  Not that the Times had contributed anything to the buildup of Joshu
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> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/us/09zen.html****
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> Several Mahayana teachers have been important to me over the years,  but
> there’s one lama I would never trust alone in a room with eclairs or
> cannoli.
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> *From:* owner-pynchon-l at waste.org [mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org<owner-pynchon-l at waste.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Keith Davis
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 12, 2013 8:57 PM
> *To:* David Morris
> *Cc:* Markekohut; malignd at aol.com; pynchon-l at waste.org
> *Subject:* Re: (np) New Pope?****
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> How about this?
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> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/12/world/asia/zen-buddhists-roiled-by-accusations-against-teacher.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130212
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> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:45 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:*
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> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/12/opinion/the-pope-could-still-right-the-wrongs.html?ref=opinion
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> Still, Benedict has one last chance to right some of the wrongs of the
> recent past by forcing out Cardinal Angelo Sodano<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/angelo_sodano/index.html?inline=nyt-per>,
> the dean of the College of Cardinals and the man who, more than any other,
> embodies the misuse of power that has corrupted the church hierarchy.****
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> But Cardinal Sodano ranks with the Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony as an
> egregious practitioner of the cover up. As John Paul II’s secretary of
> state, he pressured Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the future Pope Benedict, in
> two notorious cases.****
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> In 1995, Cardinal Hans Hermann Groër resigned as archbishop of Vienna,
> trailed by accusations, soon proven, that he had abused young men. Cardinal
> Ratzinger wanted the pope to speak out; Cardinal Sodano overruled him.****
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> Cardinal Sodano also pressured Cardinal Ratzinger to abort a case filed in
> 1998 by several men accusing the Rev. Marcial Maciel Degollado, founder of
> the Legionaries of Christ, of abusing them as seminarians. Cardinal Sodano
> was a longtime beneficiary of money and favors from Father Maciel. Priests
> who left the order told me he received at least $15,000 in cash.****
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>  He was personally involved in protecting pedophiles.  I hope he rots.****
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