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[alice wellintown]

Care to give us the pages for P's explanation?

On Thursday, February 14, 2013, wrote:

> Yes, or no, probably yes.  My point was only that there is a trail of
> clues to suggest that Slothrop's disappearance is not merely allegorical or
> whatever.  P offers an explanation that, in the world of the book, is
> actual. That's my position, in any case.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com <javascript:_e({},
> 'cvml', 'alicewellintown at gmail.com');>>
> To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'pynchon-l at waste.org');>>
> Sent: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 6:54 am
> Subject: Re: Discuss
>
>  Formalist Criticism or a close reading supports the traditional and
> pluralistic reading, so Slothrop may be an Everyman, or an alegorical
> figure, an Invisible Man, who, ironically, once his white-washing is
> wasted, becomes a crossroads and, other things too, but Invisible
> nonetheless. Formalist will not insist that Slothrop is a character in
> an Object, a book, at the exclusion of the Psychological, Historical,
> Biographical Etc...readings. So, both/and here. No?
>
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'kbob42 at gmail.com');>> wrote:
> > Isn't an experiment something intentional?
> > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:00 PM, <malignd at aol.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'malignd at aol.com');>> wrote:
> >>
> >> In which case, none of us is a Slothrop in that none of us is a singular
> >> case.  We are all victims of the same experiment.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'igrlivingston at gmail.com');>>
> >> To: Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'mackin.paul at verizon.net');>>
> >> Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'pynchon-l at waste.org');>>
> >> Sent: Wed, Feb 13, 2013 11:42 am
> >> Subject: Re: Discuss
> >>
> >> Ours is the first generation in human history to be raised consuming
> >> petrochemicals in the midst of almost uninterrupted nuclear fallout. What
> >> makes you think you haven't been experimented upon is called denial in the
> >> psychoanalytic parlance.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'mackin.paul at verizon.net');>>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 2/12/2013 11:14 PM, Michael Bailey wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:47 PM,  <malignd at aol.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'malignd at aol.com');>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We are not all the semi-famous Baby Tyrone who was handed over to be
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> subject of experimentation.  Certanly I wasn't.  You, I don 't know ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We are all experimented on as children.
> >>>>>
> >>>> well, as a lad, my cousin experimented on me by putting my finger in a
> >>>> vise and tightening it until I got a blood blister.  Setting a
> >>>> lifelong pattern, I stood there amiably and bemusedly, almost savoring
> >>>> the feeling, until he tired of the experiment and opened the vise.
> >>>>
> >>>> Somehow our parents got word of it - I don't remember making a fuss -
> >>>> and he was administered gentle verbal correction -- another
> >>>> experiment, nobody knows how that sort of thing will turn out, but he
> >>>> grew up to be a kindly adult with whom I converse fearlessly.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> My younger sister once rendered me semiconscious swinging a stringed
> >>> pupet around in the air.  Hard ceramic material of some sort. I never told
> >>> on her of course.
> >>>
> >>> P
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > www.innergroovemusic.com
>
>
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