Discuss

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It's in the archive somewhere.  I'll see if I can dig it out.  Otherwise, I will need to go through GR and reconstruct.  I'll get back.



-----Original Message-----
From: alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com>
To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:34 pm
Subject: Re: Discuss


Care to give us the pages for P's explanation? 

On Thursday, February 14, 2013,   wrote:

Yes, or no, probably yes.  My point was only that there is a trail of clues to suggest that Slothrop's disappearance is not merely allegorical or whatever.  P offers an explanation that, in the world of the book, is actual. That's my position, in any case.



-----Original Message-----
From: alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com>
To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 6:54 am
Subject: Re: Discuss


Formalist Criticism or a close reading supports the traditional and
pluralistic reading, so Slothrop may be an Everyman, or an alegorical
figure, an Invisible Man, who, ironically, once his white-washing is
wasted, becomes a crossroads and, other things too, but Invisible
nonetheless. Formalist will not insist that Slothrop is a character in
an Object, a book, at the exclusion of the Psychological, Historical,
Biographical Etc...readings. So, both/and here. No?

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Isn't an experiment something intentional?
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:00 PM, <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> In which case, none of us is a Slothrop in that none of us is a singular
>> case.  We are all victims of the same experiment.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
>> To: Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>
>> Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Wed, Feb 13, 2013 11:42 am
>> Subject: Re: Discuss
>>
>> Ours is the first generation in human history to be raised consuming
>> petrochemicals in the midst of almost uninterrupted nuclear fallout. What
>> makes you think you haven't been experimented upon is called denial in the
>> psychoanalytic parlance.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2/12/2013 11:14 PM, Michael Bailey wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:47 PM,  <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> We are not all the semi-famous Baby Tyrone who was handed over to be
>>>>> the
>>>>> subject of experimentation.  Certanly I wasn't.  You, I don 't know ...
>>>>>
>>>>> We are all experimented on as children.
>>>>>
>>>> well, as a lad, my cousin experimented on me by putting my finger in a
>>>> vise and tightening it until I got a blood blister.  Setting a
>>>> lifelong pattern, I stood there amiably and bemusedly, almost savoring
>>>> the feeling, until he tired of the experiment and opened the vise.
>>>>
>>>> Somehow our parents got word of it - I don't remember making a fuss -
>>>> and he was administered gentle verbal correction -- another
>>>> experiment, nobody knows how that sort of thing will turn out, but he
>>>> grew up to be a kindly adult with whom I converse fearlessly.
>>>>
>>>
>>> My younger sister once rendered me semiconscious swinging a stringed
>>> pupet around in the air.  Hard ceramic material of some sort. I never told
>>> on her of course.
>>>
>>> P
>>
>>
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