Discuss

[alice wellintown]

It seem fruitless to discuss this without reading or re-reading those
sections of the text, the passages that support readings and make a
discussion of it worthwhile. I recall that this debate is an old one and
has been studied in detail, and so, if my broken remembrancer be not so on
this head, We agree to agree with all of thee till the text arrives.

On Thursday, February 14, 2013, Keith Davis wrote:

> Without reading the ending again, which is what has to happen to be clear
> about this, my impression is that Slothrop escaped from the idea of owning
> a personal identity, though it didn't have much to do with his making any
> effort to do so, it just happened organically as a result of the
> experiences he went through. Escaped isn't a good description. Fell from
> it? Leapt from it?
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'brook7 at sover.net');>
> > wrote:
>
>> Or could Slothrop be an everyman and a made up somebody at the very same
>> time?
>> On Feb 13, 2013, at 6:00 PM, MalignD at aol.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
>> 'MalignD at aol.com');> wrote:
>>
>> > In which case, none of us is a Slothrop in that none of us is a
>> singular case.  We are all victims of the same experiment.
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com <javascript:_e({},
>> 'cvml', 'igrlivingston at gmail.com');>>
>> > To: Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
>> 'mackin.paul at verizon.net');>>
>> > Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
>> 'pynchon-l at waste.org');>>
>> > Sent: Wed, Feb 13, 2013 11:42 am
>> > Subject: Re: Discuss
>> >
>> > Ours is the first generation in human history to be raised consuming
>> petrochemicals in the midst of almost uninterrupted nuclear fallout. What
>> makes you think you haven't been experimented upon is called denial in the
>> psychoanalytic parlance.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'mackin.paul at verizon.net');>>
>> wrote:
>> > On 2/12/2013 11:14 PM, Michael Bailey wrote:
>> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:47 PM,  <malignd at aol.com <javascript:_e({},
>> 'cvml', 'malignd at aol.com');>> wrote:
>> > We are not all the semi-famous Baby Tyrone who was handed over to be the
>> > subject of experimentation.  Certanly I wasn't.  You, I don 't know ...
>> >
>> > We are all experimented on as children.
>> >
>> > well, as a lad, my cousin experimented on me by putting my finger in a
>> > vise and tightening it until I got a blood blister.  Setting a
>> > lifelong pattern, I stood there amiably and bemusedly, almost savoring
>> > the feeling, until he tired of the experiment and opened the vise.
>> >
>> > Somehow our parents got word of it - I don't remember making a fuss -
>> > and he was administered gentle verbal correction -- another
>> > experiment, nobody knows how that sort of thing will turn out, but he
>> > grew up to be a kindly adult with whom I converse fearlessly.
>> >
>> >
>> > My younger sister once rendered me semiconscious swinging a stringed
>> pupet around in the air.  Hard ceramic material of some sort. I never told
>> on her of course.
>> >
>> > P
>> >
>>
>>
>
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