Discuss

[David Morris]

I remember your linking it to Implex.

On Saturday, February 16, 2013, wrote:

> It's in the archive somewhere.  I'll see if I can dig it out.  Otherwise,
> I will need to go through GR and reconstruct.  I'll get back.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com <javascript:_e({},
> 'cvml', 'alicewellintown at gmail.com');>>
> To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'pynchon-l at waste.org');>>
> Sent: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 9:34 pm
> Subject: Re: Discuss
>
>  Care to give us the pages for P's explanation?
>
> On Thursday, February 14, 2013, wrote:
>
>> Yes, or no, probably yes.  My point was only that there is a trail of
>> clues to suggest that Slothrop's disappearance is not merely allegorical or
>> whatever.  P offers an explanation that, in the world of the book, is
>> actual. That's my position, in any case.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com>
>> To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 6:54 am
>> Subject: Re: Discuss
>>
>>  Formalist Criticism or a close reading supports the traditional and
>> pluralistic reading, so Slothrop may be an Everyman, or an alegorical
>> figure, an Invisible Man, who, ironically, once his white-washing is
>> wasted, becomes a crossroads and, other things too, but Invisible
>> nonetheless. Formalist will not insist that Slothrop is a character in
>> an Object, a book, at the exclusion of the Psychological, Historical,
>> Biographical Etc...readings. So, both/and here. No?
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Isn't an experiment something intentional?
>> > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:00 PM, <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In which case, none of us is a Slothrop in that none of us is a singular
>> >> case.  We are all victims of the same experiment.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Ian Livingston <igrlivingston at gmail.com>
>> >> To: Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>
>> >> Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> >> Sent: Wed, Feb 13, 2013 11:42 am
>> >> Subject: Re: Discuss
>> >>
>> >> Ours is the first generation in human history to be raised consuming
>> >> petrochemicals in the midst of almost uninterrupted nuclear fallout. What
>> >> makes you think you haven't been experimented upon is called denial in the
>> >> psychoanalytic parlance.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at verizon.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On 2/12/2013 11:14 PM, Michael Bailey wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:47 PM,  <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> We are not all the semi-famous Baby Tyrone who was handed over to be
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> subject of experimentation.  Certanly I wasn't.  You, I don 't know ...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> We are all experimented on as children.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> well, as a lad, my cousin experimented on me by putting my finger in a
>> >>>> vise and tightening it until I got a blood blister.  Setting a
>> >>>> lifelong pattern, I stood there amiably and bemusedly, almost savoring
>> >>>> the feeling, until he tired of the experiment and opened the vise.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Somehow our parents got word of it - I don't remember making a fuss -
>> >>>> and he was administered gentle verbal correction -- another
>> >>>> experiment, nobody knows how that sort of thing will turn out, but he
>> >>>> grew up to be a kindly adult with whom I converse fearlessly.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> My younger sister once rendered me semiconscious swinging a stringed
>> >>> pupet around in the air.  Hard ceramic material of some sort. I never told
>> >>> on her of course.
>> >>>
>> >>> P
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > www.innergroovemusic.com
>>
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