Mo Mo Mo P Scholarship (this Dis is on Film)

[alice wellintown]

Don Celestino is old and bitter and afraid, an impossible man. An
anarchist who has been in exile from his native Spain for more than
twenty years, he lives with his daughter in Paris, but in his mind he
is still fighting the Spanish Civil War. He fulminates against the
daily papers; he brags about his past exploits. He has become bigoted,
self-important, and obsessed; a bully to his fellow exiles and a
tyrant to his daughter, Pascualita.


http://www.nybooks.com/books/imprints/classics/chaos-and-night/


On 7/23/13, alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.h-net.org/~cervant/csa/artics11/GastaS11.pdf
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> http://www.h-net.org/~cervant/csa/artics94/jaksic.htm
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> http://wheatoncollege.edu/hispanic-studies/hisp-398-love-madness-technology-don-quixote/
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>
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> On Monday, July 22, 2013, alice wellintown wrote:
>
>> > Now how did that come about? Run across any doctors or medical papers
>> that
>> > did the same thing? your point, a fair one, is an example of part of
>> what is
>> > wrong with the Humanities industry of papers and dissertions. Do some
>> > reading of dissertations in other fields and you might come to see part
>> of
>> > the reason that Lit. departments are in trouble.
>>
>>
>>   How did it come about? There are so many contributing factors, but
>> here in the US, one that's been around for a long time but has more
>> influence now because more students go on to college and graduate
>> programs, and a greater percentage are non-native speakers of the
>> language, is that the teaching of writing is not supported in the
>> grade schools, high schools, or even in most colleges and
>> universities. Teaching writing is labor intensive, some would say
>> drudgery. In most programs this job is given to the folks at the
>> bottom of the ladder, where the first few steps are a treadmill that
>> spins people in and out of the position (adjuncts and the like). Given
>> the choice, to teach Pynchon or Shakespeare or Literature of any kind,
>> or to teach writing, basic writing, composition, most will choose the
>> former.
>>
>>   This past year I read 90 research papers in Biology and Chemistry.
>> In teaching the research and writing process, I read hundreds of peer
>> reviewed academic journals. I read these anyway because, I love
>> Physics and Environmental Science and I'm quite keen on Physics these
>> days, but what you say was not confimrmed by what I read. So many of
>> the bleeding edge papers are written by L2 or L3 scholars who are not
>> supported with translation, editing and the like. So the jargon and
>> the jumble of grammar is not a disease of the Humanties, but is spread
>> in all disiplnes.
>>
>> But this is the negative side of wha are, very interesting times in
>> the world of published papers. We have now more and better
>> translations, more and more cross-cultural and cross-linguistis
>> schoalrship than ever. It's quite an amazing exchange of ideas that is
>> taking place, and that English is the language, not the one we would
>> choose, makes this exchange quite difficult but, nonetheless,
>> miraclulous.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > As for Cervantes and words involving techne:
>> >
>> http://www.uaemex.mx/plin/colmena/Colmena_73/Aguijon/La_palabra_maquina_Quijote.pdf
>> > Of course if you don't know Spanish it won't help much. So let me
>> > add: http://www.traduccionliteraria.org/1611/art/canivell.htm
>> >
>> > ciao
>> > mc
>> > Glad to see you're getting round to The RTP, let us know what ya think.
>> > Could the that Frank be important for the AtD Frank?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com>
>> > To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> > Cc:
>> > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:31 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Mo Mo Mo P Scholarship (this Dis is on Film)
>> >
>> > Someone in the P-Industry is keeping track, if not perusing these
>> > dissertations. I've read lotz and I think many are not worth the time
>> > it takes to figure out what the author is trying to convey. Jargon and
>> > have digested regurgitation...blah blah, but I like this one. I like
>> > it  a lot, actually.
>> >
>> >
>> > The unfortunate hyperbole in the passage quoted may be owed to
>> > inexperience, the audacity of ignorance, of youthful arrogance, or to
>> > what has become a tradition, a habit in the academy. I suspect the
>> > last. Take it out and you have a better paper. The author never
>> > defends this claim. In fact, a lot of claims are not well supported,
>> > some are better addressed by the works cited, some are simply driven
>> > into the fog of abstractions and theory. What I like is the discussion
>> > of MASH and  GR. And the stuff on Joyce. Nice!
>> >
>> > Again, I don't think the Dis argues that there is a correct approach,
>> > although it does take advantage of "mis-readings" (e.g.,
>> > Weisenburger), or "what is missed" by other approaches. This is,
>> > again, a stupid academic habit that this Dis doesn't surrender to
>> > often.
>> >
>> >
>> > I don't recall a technical discussion of windmills in DQ. But another
>> > example will make your point: Moby-Dick. Melville does not expect the
>> > reader to know the technology of saling or whaling. Indeed, his
>> > narrator, and his readers are overwhelmed by the complexity of both
>> > and this is the point. It is, as the Dis here implies by citing
>> > Bakhtin, and by discussing this idea, an essential element of the
>> > Romance/Anatomy M-satire. Or, the Physics in AGTD. The Dis advocates
>> > cloe reading to discover themes and tecniques, but at the same time,
>> > calls attention to the self-conscious auteur who, in his encyclopedic
>> > details, admits that he is lifting, mapping intertextually, and is
>> > only an expert at fiction making, not at explaining the brow of the
>> > sperm whale or entropy. This modern narrative strategy, though in use
>> > by Melville, is lost on some readers of P, who assume he is not, like
>> > his questers, also only searching the book(s), wondering  and
>> > wandering  in the wonderful land of the library.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 7/21/13, Matthew Cissell <macissell at yahoo.es> wrote:
>> >> Doesn't that imply that there is a correct way to read it? Don Quixote
>> >> uses
>> >> special terms related to the technology of windmills, if you don't
>> >> know
>> >> this
>> >> will you be unable to "know" the book? What happens when centuries and
>> >> technological changes separate readers from the context of the
>> >> writing?
>> >> Are
>> >> we the clerics of the bon mot that will illuminate the uniniciated?
>> >> Couldn't
>> >> one have a fruitful reading experience without these oh so important
>> >> connections?
>> >>
>> >> Jes sayin'.
>> >> ciao
>> >> mc
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com>
>> >> To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> >>
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