Thich Nhat Hagn's "Fear"

[Ian Livingston]

Yes, I've heard birth called the first trauma:
http://www.osteodoc.com/birthtrauma.htm





On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Psychologists say, I learned with my grandson, that an infant's startle
> response is very like PTSD syndrome...
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>    *From:* David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> *To:* Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* P-list <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 29, 2013 10:39 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Thich Nhat Hagn's "Fear"
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> Sure.  But birth is a stark initial lesson in separateness, even if the
> "self" hasn't yet formed. And I think initial experiencing the sensation of
> fear and desire is TNH's focus, something that precedes a self.
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> On Monday, July 29, 2013, Keith Davis wrote:
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> The only clarification might be that there is no consciousness of the fear
> and desire until we reach the point where we become aware of a"self" as
> separate from other "selves", where we develop an "individual
> consciousness".
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> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 1:13 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
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> It starts with a description of each of us pre-birth in the "The Palace of
> the Child." Everything we needed was done for us there.  Food, air, warmth,
> in a big water cushioned bed, with great sound insulation.
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> Then we get pushed out into the loud cold world, having to cough out
> liquid in order to take our own first breath.  Every aspect of this birth
> is traumatic, and TNH says it is called the "Original Fear."  At about this
> same moment we realize we want to keep living.  TNH calls this "Original
> Desire."
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> I think this was all pre Freud.
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> David Morris
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