Thich Nhat Hagn's "Fear"

[Mark Kohut]

Psychologists say, I learned with my grandson, that an infant's startle response is very like PTSD syndrome...
 

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 From: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
To: Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> 
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Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: Thich Nhat Hagn's "Fear"
  


Sure.  But birth is a stark initial lesson in separateness, even if the "self" hasn't yet formed. And I think initial experiencing the sensation of fear and desire is TNH's focus, something that precedes a self.

On Monday, July 29, 2013, Keith Davis  wrote:

The only clarification might be that there is no consciousness of the fear and desire until we reach the point where we become aware of a"self" as separate from other "selves", where we develop an "individual consciousness". 
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>On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 1:13 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>It starts with a description of each of us pre-birth in the "The Palace of the Child." Everything we needed was done for us there.  Food, air, warmth, in a big water cushioned bed, with great sound insulation. 
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>>Then we get pushed out into the loud cold world, having to cough out liquid in order to take our own first breath.  Every aspect of this birth is traumatic, and TNH says it is called the "Original Fear."  At about this same moment we realize we want to keep living.  TNH calls this "Original Desire." 
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>>I think this was all pre Freud.
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>>David Morris 
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