They're Shooting IV

Henry M scuffling at gmail.com
Fri Jun 7 08:45:46 CDT 2013


Unlike a writer, an excellent director can use a single-noted instrument to
great effect, like a single bell in a bell-choir concert.  We've all seen
it done by great character actors in classic old movies.

Yours truly,
٩(●̮̮̃•̃)۶
Henry Musikar, CISSP
http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:44 PM, <malignd at aol.com> wrote:

> Sorry to ruffle your feathers, Greenlief.  Sean Penn is a terrible,
> over-rated face actor; Owen Wilson is a one-note.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net>
> To: malignd <malignd at aol.com>
> Sent: Thu, Jun 6, 2013 6:33 pm
> Subject: Re: They're Shooting IV
>
>  i'm suggesting a few things ...
>
> first of all, i realize this is a discussion list - feel free to practice
> free speech.
>
> but what's with wasting time reviewing a film that is still in production?
>
> and who cares what anyone thinks about actors? are you an actor? could you
> have done a better job with the part penn played in DEAD MAN WALKING?
>
> do you even know what part penn is playing? what if it's mickey wolfman
> and we never see penn on the screen except in photographs? i'm thinking
> anderson is pretty good with casting and if he's going to use penn he's
> going to know how to use penn. did anyone expect mark wahlberg to bring it
> in BOOGIE NIGHTS? i certainly didn't. but what do you know - i thought he
> did a good job of carrying the film - surprised me - and i like when i get
> surprised like that ... so don't tend to speculate on things i know nothing
> about ... until there is evidence to review ... that's the point i wanted
> to make.
>
> i'm remembering the line marlene dietrich says at the end of TOUCH OF EVIL
> .... "what difference does it make what you say about people?"
>
> ultimately - help yourself - talk shit - lay waste to everyone you think
> is useless.  enjoy yourself, it's a great way to make friends and impress
> others.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "malignd at aol.com" <malignd at aol.com>
> *To:* pynchon-l at waste.org
> *Sent:* Thu, June 6, 2013 2:33:51 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: They're Shooting IV
>
> What do you know about who's an artist and who's not?
>
>  And are you suggesting that when Sean Penn, face actor, scenery chewer
> extraordinaire, slaughters a movie with his self-indulgence, I  should
> censor my opinion because I'm not an artist but that unwatchable ham is?
>  Is this a religious thing?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net>
> To: Rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
> Cc: malignd <malignd at aol.com>; pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Wed, Jun 5, 2013 7:10 pm
> Subject: Re: They're Shooting IV
>
>  it's always encouraging listening and reading words from people are not
> artists ripping other artists to shreds ... especially when engaged in
> speculation.
>
> sent from phillip's iPhone
>
> On Jun 5, 2013, at 3:59 PM, Rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   Not to mention Wilson is playing the most annoying character in the book
>
>
>
> On Jun 5, 2013, at 5:42 PM, <malignd at aol.com>malignd at aol.com wrote:
>
>  He deserves more than the benefit of the doubt;  I mean, it's his movie.
>  But when Wilson trots out his tired schtick and Sean starts chewing the
> scenery, the lights, the key grip, he may have second thoughts.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Al Haidar < <attarhaidar at gmail.com>attarhaidar at gmail.com>
> To: malignd < <malignd at aol.com>malignd at aol.com>
> Cc: pynchon-l < <pynchon-l at waste.org>pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Tue, Jun 4, 2013 10:42 pm
> Subject: Re: They're Shooting IV
>
>  After Punch-Drunk Love, I think PTA deserves the benefit of the doubt
> when it comes to casting.  I'm more interested to see how the adaptation of
> IV will fit into Anderson's filmography overall. He swore in interviews
> that he didn't see The Master as a father-son story, and yet ... there it
> was, another PTA film thick with estrangement between fathers and sons. It
> always thrills me to see a new film from someone whose work is clearly
> dealing with real and deeply personal themes, not merely dictated by the
> box office or cinematic style du jour. How that will play out with a
> collaborator like Pynchon (by way of his writing, anyways) is exciting
> enough to me that I'm fighting the urge to be pre-disappointed with (some
> of) the casting.
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:20 PM, < <malignd at aol.com>malignd at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Owen Wilson and Sean Penn?  Two movie killers on the same screen.  How'd
>> the miss Nicholas Cage?
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Henry M < <scuffling at gmail.com>scuffling at gmail.com>
>> To: Pynchon Liste < <pynchon-l at waste.org>pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Tue, Jun 4, 2013 11:23 am
>> Subject: They're Shooting IV
>>
>>  Shooting on the Thomas *Pynchon* adaptation recently began in Los
>> Angeles, with a sprawling lineup including Joaquin Phoenix, Benicio Del
>> Toro, Owen Wilson, Sean Penn, and many more. The first pics from the set
>> offer a look at Phoenix, who as *...*
>> <http://news.google.com/news/story?ncl=http://www.slashfilm.com/first-look-joaquin-phoenix-in-inherent-vice-maya-rudolph-joins-cast/&hl=en>
>> <http://www.slashfilm.com/first-look-joaquin-phoenix-in-inherent-vice-maya-rudolph-joins-cast/>
>> http://www.slashfilm.com/first-look-joaquin-phoenix-in-inherent-vice-maya-rudolph-joins-cast/
>>
>>
>> Yours truly,
>> ٩(●̮̮̃•̃)۶
>> Henry Musikar, CISSP
>>  <http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20>
>> http://astore.amazon.com/tdcoccamsaxe-20
>>
>>
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