They're Shooting IV

Fri Jun 7 17:14:10 CDT 2013

May be true in Wilson's case, buy let him try to rein in Sean Penn when he decides to emote, which is whenever he has a line.

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From: Henry M <scuffling at gmail.com>
To: malignd <malignd at aol.com>
Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Fri, Jun 7, 2013 9:46 am
Subject: Re: They're Shooting IV

Unlike a writer, an excellent director can use a single-noted instrument to great effect, like a single bell in a bell-choir concert.  We've all seen it done by great character actors in classic old movies.

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On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:44 PM,  <malignd at aol.com> wrote:

Sorry to ruffle your feathers, Greenlief.  Sean Penn is a terrible, over-rated face actor; Owen Wilson is a one-note.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net>

To: malignd <malignd at aol.com>
Sent: Thu, Jun 6, 2013 6:33 pm
Subject: Re: They're Shooting IV

i'm suggesting a few things ...

first of all, i realize this is a discussion list - feel free to practice free speech.

but what's with wasting time reviewing a film that is still in production?

and who cares what anyone thinks about actors? are you an actor? could you have done a better job with the part penn played in DEAD MAN WALKING?

do you even know what part penn is playing? what if it's mickey wolfman and we never see penn on the screen except in photographs? i'm thinking anderson is pretty good with casting and if he's going to use penn he's going to know how to use penn. did anyone expect mark wahlberg to bring it in BOOGIE NIGHTS? i certainly didn't. but what do you know - i thought he did a good job of carrying the film - surprised me - and i like when i get surprised like that ... so don't tend to speculate on things i know nothing about ... until there is evidence to review ... that's the point i wanted to make.

i'm remembering the line marlene dietrich says at the end of TOUCH OF EVIL .... "what difference does it make what you say about people?"

ultimately - help yourself - talk shit - lay waste to everyone you think is useless.  enjoy yourself, it's a great way to make friends and impress others.

From: "malignd at aol.com" <malignd at aol.com>
To: pynchon-l at waste.org
Sent: Thu, June 6, 2013 2:33:51 PM

Subject: Re: They're Shooting IV

What do you know about who's an artist and who's not?

And are you suggesting that when Sean Penn, face actor, scenery chewer extraordinaire, slaughters a movie with his self-indulgence, I  should censor my opinion because I'm not an artist but that unwatchable ham is?  Is this a religious thing?

-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net>
To: Rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com>
Cc: malignd <malignd at aol.com>; pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Wed, Jun 5, 2013 7:10 pm
Subject: Re: They're Shooting IV

it's always encouraging listening and reading words from people are not artists ripping other artists to shreds ... especially when engaged in speculation.

sent from phillip's iPhone

On Jun 5, 2013, at 3:59 PM, Rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:

Not to mention Wilson is playing the most annoying character in the book

On Jun 5, 2013, at 5:42 PM, malignd at aol.com wrote:

He deserves more than the benefit of the doubt;  I mean, it's his movie.  But when Wilson trots out his tired schtick and Sean starts chewing the scenery, the lights, the key grip, he may have second thoughts.

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From: Al Haidar <attarhaidar at gmail.com>
To: malignd <malignd at aol.com>
Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Tue, Jun 4, 2013 10:42 pm
Subject: Re: They're Shooting IV

After Punch-Drunk Love, I think PTA deserves the benefit of the doubt when it comes to casting.  I'm more interested to see how the adaptation of IV will fit into Anderson's filmography overall. He swore in interviews that he didn't see The Master as a father-son story, and yet ... there it was, another PTA film thick with estrangement between fathers and sons. It always thrills me to see a new film from someone whose work is clearly dealing with real and deeply personal themes, not merely dictated by the box office or cinematic style du jour. How that will play out with a collaborator like Pynchon (by way of his writing, anyways) is exciting enough to me that I'm fighting the urge to be pre-disappointed with (some of) the casting. 

On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:20 PM,  <malignd at aol.com> wrote:

Owen Wilson and Sean Penn?  Two movie killers on the same screen.  How'd the miss Nicholas Cage?

-----Original Message-----
From: Henry M <scuffling at gmail.com>
To: Pynchon Liste <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Tue, Jun 4, 2013 11:23 am
Subject: They're Shooting IV

Shooting on the Thomas Pynchon adaptation recently began in Los Angeles, with a sprawling lineup including Joaquin Phoenix, Benicio Del Toro, Owen Wilson, Sean Penn, and many more. The first pics from the set offer a look at Phoenix, who as ...

http://www.slashfilm.com/first-look-joaquin-phoenix-in-inherent-vice-maya-rudolph-joins-cast/ 

Yours truly,
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Henry Musikar, CISSP
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