[np] Zizek on Zero Dark Thirty and other things under the sun

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I, personally, think Boal and Bigelow have been Jesuitically dishonest in their ( changing) words 
On the movie' s ( torture). The more the media went after them and they responded, the hugely better box office it did, despite Not getting the laudable Morris's bucks. I lost my integrity ( again) and went. 



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On Mar 1, 2013, at 9:39 AM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Fwiw..
> 
> Decades from now folks well be directed to this movie to get some sort
> of background to 9/11 and subsequent events. as mark said it wants to
> be seen as factual yet it's a very dangerous game by even suggesting
> that torture led to bin laden's death because those facts aren't
> clear.
> 
> i found much of the movie a bore in any case.
> 
> read steve coll's critque in the ny review of books. it's online
> 
> http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2013/feb/07/disturbing-misleading-zero-dark-thirty/?pagination=false
> 
> Boal and Bigelow have offered two main responses to the criticism they
> have received. One is that as dramatists compressing a complex history
> into a cinematic narrative, they must be granted a degree of artistic
> license.
> 
> That is unarguable, of course, and yet the filmmakers cannot, on the
> one hand, claim authenticity as journalists while, on the other,
> citing art as an excuse for shoddy reporting about a subject as
> important as whether torture had a vital part in the search for bin
> Laden, and therefore might be, for some, defensible as public policy.
> Boal and Bigelow—not their critics—first promoted the film as a kind
> of journalism. Bigelow has called Zero Dark Thirty a “reported film.”
> Boal told a New York Times interviewer before the controversy erupted,
> “I don’t want to play fast and loose with history.”
> 
> rich
> 
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:22 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have refused to watch that movie because of its pro torture portrayal
>> (from media accounts).
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, February 28, 2013, Kai Frederik Lorentzen wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> English talk on yesterday's TV-show Kulturzeit:
>>> 
>>> http://www.3sat.de/mediathek/index.php?display=1&mode=play&obj=35116
>>> 
>>> Was already off-turned by the torture scenes from 24, so let me ask:
>>> Is there a better reason to watch that movie?
>>