911 Prewarning

Paul Mackin mackin.paul at verizon.net
Sat Mar 2 09:53:25 CST 2013


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On 3/1/2013 9:18 PM, kelber at mindspring.com wrote:
> I did get used to them.  They were like homing towers - when you 
> emerged from the subway, you could look for them, then get your 
> north-south orientation.  When I worked as an electrical apprentice at 
> the first buildings to go up in Battery Park City (built on the 
> landfill created by the excavation for the towers), the most 
> convenient women's bathroom was at a place in the lower level of one 
> of the towers, called The Loading Dock (or Zone?).  When I visited the 
> area, soon after the towers fell, I felt as if I were visiting a 
> double amputee in the hospital - it was devastating.
>
> Laura
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: malignd at aol.com
>     Sent: Mar 1, 2013 6:49 PM
>     To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>     Subject: Re: 911 Prewarning
>
>     That's true and for good reason.  Yet, and this is something
>     perhaps peculiar to architecture, New Yorkers came to like the
>     towers and even some (professional) critics softened their views.
>      Plus Philippe Petit! How could you not love that they were there,
>     given what he did with them?
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>     To: kelber <kelber at mindspring.com>
>     Cc: P-list <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>     Sent: Fri, Mar 1, 2013 11:08 am
>     Subject: Re: 911 Prewarning
>
>     The original Twin Towers design was widely panned by architectural
>     critics.
>
>
>     On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:04 AM, <kelber at mindspring.com
>     <mailto:kelber at mindspring.com>> wrote:
>
>         As the towers were going up, they looked like two giant file
>         cabinets, plunked down in the middle of what had been a
>         delicate, filagreed skyline.  But I suppose they were really
>         some sort of homoerotic image.  Maybe that's what ticked al
>         Qaeda off.  Personally, I find the new, heterosexual fuck-you
>         phallus they're constructing obscene.  "Look how long and hard
>         we are now!  Don't fuck with the new viagrified trade center,
>         evil terrorists!"  For a long while, it looked like they
>         weren't going to add the foreskin.  But now it's in just about
>         complete. Jews circumcize in infancy.  Muslims wait 7-10
>         years.  Is it a dare?
>
>         Laura
>
>             -----Original Message-----
>             From: bandwraith at aol.com <mailto:bandwraith at aol.com>
>             Sent: Feb 28, 2013 10:14 PM
>             To: pynchon-l at waste.org <mailto:pynchon-l at waste.org>
>             Subject: Re: 911 Prewarning
>
>             I witnessed the towers just after the first plane hit. All
>             the conspiracy theories are rubbish- mostly because they
>             detract from the real issue, the symbolic power of their
>             destruction. Al Queda was hip to this as early as 1993-
>             when the morons tried to bring one of them down with a
>             garage bomb planted in a rented vehicle, after which they
>             then tried to recoup the deposit on! The only people
>             stupider than Al Queda were the various security agencies
>             charged with protecting us from them.
>             Pynchon's most specific reference to the symbolic power of
>             the World Trade Center occurs in Chapter 11 (as a
>             self-signifier of moral bankruptcy) of M&D- the twin
>             gallows, shimmering on the horizon of St. Helena, the two
>             terms- capitalism and slavery- so essential for the
>             western enterprise. Reading it post-911 is enough to cause
>             goose bumps- prescient. And don't forget that steady wind
>             blowing in (back) from the coast.  So stop changing the
>             subject. Al Queda was well aware of the location of our
>             "crotch" and it took them two kicks, but they finally
>             caught us right in the balls. If there was a conspiracy it
>             was between those flea bitten fanatic scumbags and our own
>             stupidity.
>             Since 911, any critique of the capitalist enterprise has
>             been forced to walk gingerly around the issue of sympathy
>             for the devil. But coincidence works in strange ways, and
>             the demonic, despite its rabid hatred, is sometimes
>             twisted into the agency of The Good- much to its own chargrin.
>
>
>
>             -----Original Message-----
>             From: Kai Frederik Lorentzen <lorentzen at hotmail.de
>             <mailto:lorentzen at hotmail.de>>
>             To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org
>             <mailto:pynchon-l at waste.org>>
>             Sent: Thu, Feb 28, 2013 8:34 pm
>             Subject: Re: 911 Prewarning
>
>
>             /How about discussing the issue in relation to Pynchon's work?
>
>             Not that he knows the answers re 9/11, but neither do we,
>             so ...
>             /--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>             http://against-the-day.pynchonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Against_the_Day_and_September_11
>
>             *9/11 in Against the Day*
>             On roughly pages 138-155 of /Against the Day/, the
>             Lovecraftian narrative about a mysterious power dug up
>             from the ice bears numerous parallels to the events of 9/11:
>             Page 145: "even reaching the depot would prove an Odyssey.
>             For the streets were in mad disorder"
>             Page 148: "the bad dream I still try to wake from, the
>             great city brought to sorrow and ruin"
>             Page 151: "they'd been warned, repeatedly, about just such
>             a possiblity. The city more and more vertical, the
>             population growing in density, all hostages to just sich
>             an incursion."
>             Page 151: "a story taken so for granted that its coming
>             true was the last thing anybody expected"
>
>
>                 Against the Day & the Controlled Demolition Hypothesis
>
>             It has been suggested that the following excerpts might
>             allude to the Controlled demolition hypothesis
>             <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_demolition_hypothesis_for_the_collapse_of_the_World_Trade_Center>
>             for the collapse of the WTC:
>             Page 85: "some of these explosions, the more deadly of
>             them, in fact, were really set off to begin with not by
>             Anarchists but by the owners themselves."
>             Page 175: "Only slowly would it occur to his ultra-keen
>             detective's reasoning that these bombs could have been set
>             by anybody, including those who would clearly benefit if
>             "Anarchists", however loosely defined, could be blamed for
>             it."
>             (...)
>
>
>                 9/11 and Pynchon's other works
>
>             *Gravity's Rainbow*
>             The poem/song that appears on the final page of the book
>             contains an image that takes on new meaning post-9/11:
>
>                 /There is a Hand to turn the time,/ 
>                 /Though thy Glass today be run./ 
>                 *Till the Light that hath brought the Towers low* 
>                 *Find the last poor Pret'rite one...* 
>                 /Till the Riders sleep in ev'ry road,/ 
>                 /All through our crippl'd Zone./ 
>                 /With a face on ev'ry mountainside/, 
>                 /And a Soul in ev'ry stone/... 
>
>             (...)
>
>

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