9-11 box cutters 11 september utility knives

[Mark Thibodeau]

"I am not convinced as a truther but am even less convinced by the
official story."

Ditto.

MT

On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
> I will offer an alternate phrase that despite its seeming insignificance has troubled me. Box cutters. Before 11 september  I rarely heard  utility knives refereed to as box cutters and thought of that phrase as a kind of term used by people who don't regularly use hand tools and got a plastic knife to break down shipping boxes from Office Depot.. So I have wondered why have I never once heard them called what I and anyone I know who actually regularly uses these knives for utilitarian purposes calls them- which is utility knives. I have asked about 4-5 people what they think of when they hear the phrase box cutter and people describe either a standard utility knife or a small  plastic handled utility knife with break away blades, or a fold out steel knife. If you google the phrase those are the things you get. Hardware stores have always called them utility knives, but they are now sold on the internet as box cutters too.
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> You don't kill passengers and flight attendants , then walk to the front of a plane  open the cockpit door and kill a pilot and copilot with a 1/2 inch break-away blade.  A standard utility knife which is called by some a box-cutter is a powerful, sharp, strong and potentially deadly tool, (much more that  a swiss army knife which I always kept in my backpack  when traveling before 9-11), because it has a large grip and close to 2 inches of razor sharp steel blade.
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> So as far as I can tell the use of the term box -cutter originated from calls of a stewardess but she and others also said knives. What bothers me is the standardization of the description of weapons which aren't really known in detail to the term box-cutters.  It feels indicative of mindless repetition rather than a journalistic curiosity and  an attempt to get a real, detailed and plausible picture of one of the most disturbing events in many decades.
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> This is a tiny detail in a big picture that Is still very disputed and unclear. Does P really accept the mainstream account? Why does P throw in the rooftop story so weirdly reminiscent of Kennedy's assassination or the underground goings on at Montauk  if he does not give some credence to alternate explanations? Why does everyone in BE chump-out and quit their research if not sheer dread about very powerful and unscrupulous forces? What is the role of the murder in the story? Is it referring to something real?
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> Because something real changed on 11 September 2001. We all know that.  But what actually happened?
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> Why was Kissinger, the master of murderous coups and secret bombings, Bush's first choice for the inquiry.  Why did Building 7 collapse? Where was the Air Force? Is there really thermite recovered from the site? Where are the engines of the plane that hit the Pentagon?Here is a huge event which remains shrouded in real questions , but  which to look at skeptically is journalistic and media death. Yet many loved ones of victims are profoundly dissatisfied with the official inquiry. Why should we trust known liars and news organizations which reported incredibly spurious crap about WMD's to care deeply enough to truly answer the questions of the many sincere and personally involved, knowledgeable and credible skeptics including victims and first responders. Why not make the utmost effort to put to rest conspiracy theories that can only lead to bitterness and estrangement. And since when did America start thinking the thing to do after apprehending the  unarmed subject of a world-wide manhunt and center of a terrorist conspiracy,  is to shoot him and throw his  body into the Mediterranean?
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>  Our lives go on.  We go to whatever we call work, live with friends and family, have our own worries and dreams. But now it is one war after another and we  are told it is criminal to question  the "right " of our government to monitor everyone's communication even though they have no interest in hearing what we say to them openly. The constitution evaporates as quickly under one party as the other and the reason is  always 9-11, the biggest emergency call in human history just keeps ringing away  our taxes and rights..   We want to go back to normal, back to the Jack Benny story, back to home made take-out and Ben and Jerrys.  Am I so alone  in being troubled by these nagging questions?  I too am a neighbor of those killed.
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> I am not convinced as a truther but am even less convinced by the official story.
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