Hitchcock (was Heres an Essay I Wrote (sic))

[John Bailey]

VL had film dates appended too. Always thought that quirk was meant to
represent the typical TV guide style.

If I recall, Ernie makes some points about Hollywood blacklisting that
are very similar to the John Garfield discussions in IV.

On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Carvill John <johncarvill at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I think Hitchcock achieved deeper meaningfulness than  the critics gave him
> credit for at the time, and in fact he was deeper than he consciously
> intended to be. Not that it's my favourite Hitchcock film, but there's no
> denying the depth in 'Vertigo', for instance.
>
> Do we reckon the movie references in BE mean anything much? More or less
> than in IV? Of course we recall all the film stuff in VL - 24fps, Hollywood
> unions, etc. I notice that, as in IV, film titles frequently have the date
> appended to them - but not always. Is this non uniformity deliberate or
> accidental?
>
>
>
>> Subject: Re: Heres an Essay I Wrote About The Bleeding Edge Book Trailer -
>> Spoiler
>> From: brook7 at sover.net
>> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 01:45:04 -0400
>> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>>
>> Responding to Michael B
>> good locus for discussion. Kind of interesting also to think of Hitchcock
>> as a master of deeper meaning, because he probably is to some degree, but
>> that isn't really what I think of. Others? Another BE Hitchcock reference
>> was to Rear Window, with the urban apartment under observation being
>> transferred in BE to the Deseret. And one of the observations that Reg the
>> filmmaker's investigation initiates is what Reg shot there on the roof, a
>> shot of a shooter of a shooter of a future shooter. Obviously rife with
>> undeveloped "deeper meaning".
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 3, 2013, at 12:03 AM, Michael Bailey wrote:
>>
>> > No spoilers here...but doesn't it seem like a typically humble take, the
>> > wiseacre kid who wrote about Nueva York in V. not having learned a gosh darn
>> > thing, writing about the City again 50 years later?
>> >
>> > "after a bunch of journeyings, to, like, come back & know the place for
>> > the 1st time"
>> >
>> > Or - now this is a quote from pg 143 - scroll down if not keeping
>> > perception virginal -
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>> > "ain't like I was ever Alfred Hitchcock or somethin.
>> > You can watch my stuff till you're crosseyed and there'll never be any
>> > deeper meaning.
>> > I see something interesting, I shoot it is all."
>> >
>> > Well anyway, that's the big angle I'm cogitating on for the nonce, BE
>> > vis a vis V. And the implausible denial, a storytelling tradition, of
>> > high-flown or wide-ranging or deeply meaningful aspirations.
>> >
>> > I am truly not going to develop this right now - attention span issues
>> > as well as "too soon" - but it does seem kinda juicy for a compare /
>> > contrast at some pt.
>> >
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